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maxrandb

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Sat Jan 18, 2025, 07:23 AM Jan 18

At a minimum, could we please be honest about what and who we are fighting? [View all]

The Retrumplicans are fascists. They are pushing and dragging us into fascism. The oligarchs that control most of American media, social, or otherwise, are funding fascism! PERIOD!!!! FULL STOP!!!!

IMHO, using X, Facebook, Amazon is funding fascism. NOT taking action to determine, if the corporations, businesses and individuals that benefit from my spending, are also funding fascism, makes me a supporter of fascism.

When I have written that buying something from Amazon, or using/buying anything associated with Musk, or Zuckerberg is "akin to buying a Volkswagen in 1933 Germany", some have pointed out that "these current times don't equate to the Holocaust".

You know? They're right.

In 1933 Germany, there was no Holocaust.

Germany wasn't a fascist police state on 29 January, 1933. It was on 29 March, 1933.

Germany didn't round up millions of Jews, Gypsies, gay, handicapped and mentally disabled people, and ship them off to concentration camps...UNTIL IT DID!
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There wasn't a Holocaust.....until there was!

It simply can happen here.

To prevent that, it is going to take an effort similar to the fight for Civil Rights, or somewhere between that level of resistence and Gettysburg.

One of the first steps to fascism is to make the opposition irrelevant. It's too make the opposition disappear.

I argue that we are about halfway through that "first step".

We are "invisible" to them. They could care less about the 76 million that didn't vote for Donnie Dipshit, they are going to "govern" as if we don't exist. What scares me the most, is that if you caught them in an honest moment, they would admit that they much prefer we didn't exist.

That's not hyperbole, because I have seen it firsthand.

John Kasich won the governorship in Ohio by 50.8% of the vote. He also had a Retrumplican majority state legislature. He "governed" as if he won with 98% of the vote. They passed gerrymandered maps and put sychophants into positions of power that oversaw elections. Today, they could win 44% of the state-wide vote in Ohio, and control 70% of the states political power.

I saw that with my own eyes. It was downplayed, as we were told; "surely moderate Ohio state Retrumplicans wouldn't allow such an undemocratic power grab." Guess what, when push came to shove, there were no moderate Ohio Retrumplicans.

Maybe we forget, but they didn't even acknowledge the 81 million people that voted for President Biden. A violent coup had to be put down, and they spent the entire 4 years of Biden's presidency arguing that he was illegitimate. In others words, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE 81 MILLION AMERICANS were also illegitimate/INVISIBLE.

Look at what they've done in North Carolina, Texas, Tennessee and in EVERY STATE they have a trifecta.

I am tired of people telling me we aren't devolving into fascism, when I am watching it takes shape with my own eyes.

We had better wake up quick, but at a minimum could we at least be honest about who, and what these people are?

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K&R Think. Again. Jan 18 #1
It seems some, if not many, are either in denial or devoid of discernment SheltieLover Jan 18 #2
Completely agree. sop Jan 18 #3
I don't understand you headline William769 Jan 18 #4
Oh, I Agree With You. DAngelo136 Jan 18 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author rainy Jan 19 #103
The problem as I see it.... 3Hotdogs Jan 18 #6
Well, we could start by NOT treating Musk, Zuckerberg and Bezos as "indespensable" maxrandb Jan 18 #8
Agree to the point that I am fleeing the country. sinkingfeeling Jan 18 #7
I'm not sure whether it will be fascism Nazi-style The Madcap Jan 18 #9
The one thing that gives me hope maxrandb Jan 18 #10
Agreed The Madcap Jan 18 #12
The media will serve us this poop-sandwich maxrandb Jan 18 #14
I fear it's stupid on purpose. BonnieJW Jan 18 #18
Seems obivous yellow dahlia Jan 18 #57
Not him (Hegseth) ReRe Jan 19 #95
Neither. It is a uniquely American fascism. Voltaire2 Jan 18 #54
The time for action was 4 years ago, gab13by13 Jan 18 #11
Patience, grasshopper...Garland still has the weekend to hold Trump accountable. sop Jan 18 #15
you have got to be kidding LymphocyteLover Jan 18 #19
Yes, forgive me, I just violated Poe's Law. sop Jan 18 #21
That ship sailed, sunk, and lays at the bottom of the sea gab. Time to move on. bluesbassman Jan 18 #17
I get my news from gab13by13 Jan 18 #32
blaming this all on Merrick Garland is wrong. I blame the media and SCOTUS far more LymphocyteLover Jan 18 #20
Do you remember what numerous Republican Congressmen were saying gab13by13 Jan 18 #28
You honestly believe that Republicans would have seen the light then, if there had been LymphocyteLover Jan 18 #30
"See the light" isn't relevant mr715 Jan 18 #46
You mean if he was arrested? You think they would have just given up on him like that? LymphocyteLover Jan 18 #50
Who mr715 Jan 18 #71
Michelle Obama got it right? She wanted us to take the high road? How does that fit? LymphocyteLover Jan 19 #100
The opportunities that were missed and ignored. Aaaargh! yellow dahlia Jan 18 #59
Are part of the story nt mr715 Jan 18 #72
Is there some master list of Trumper companies to boycott? Blue_Tires Jan 18 #13
Good idea. yellow dahlia Jan 18 #60
Not that I know of, but this resource is excellent Six117 Jan 18 #73
Here's a list kkmarie Jan 19 #96
I agree with you and I don't know that it's not already too late. Trueblue Texan Jan 18 #16
collective action markie Jan 18 #23
I'm in. Ideas? yellow dahlia Jan 18 #62
Sigh. I know, right? dchill Jan 18 #26
Well, your comment just goes to show you... Trueblue Texan Jan 18 #41
If we don't laugh, we cry. dchill Jan 18 #49
I share your dismal outlook. yellow dahlia Jan 18 #61
I have bit my tounge too I_UndergroundPanther Jan 19 #92
As long as the social garbage sites serve as the principle source of 'media' consumed by the masses NoMoreRepugs Jan 18 #22
Exactly. yellow dahlia Jan 18 #64
We are cats trying to negotiate with Dobermans and Rottweilers. hadEnuf Jan 18 #24
I await I_UndergroundPanther Jan 19 #93
I'm holding my fire for a while . . . AverageOldGuy Jan 18 #25
The description of your county in VA matches mine in western NY, wnylib Jan 19 #97
The leaders that we need Icanthinkformyself Jan 18 #27
100% Blue Full Moon Jan 18 #29
I didn't really think that was an issue here... among Democrats at least. ananda Jan 18 #31
"akin to buying a Volkswagen in 1933 Germany" speak easy Jan 18 #33
The Nazi Party began the process of building Volkswagen in 1937, but the company didn't produce cars in large sop Jan 18 #42
... speak easy Jan 18 #44
'Photograph of a "Strength through Joy" Car' sop Jan 18 #45
KdF tourism1939 speak easy Jan 18 #48
"I am tired of people telling me we aren't devolving into fascism" speak easy Jan 18 #34
Crying wolf Southern_gent Jan 18 #35
How about The Wizard Jan 18 #39
At least that's original Southern_gent Jan 18 #40
And this is part of the problem Lunabell Jan 18 #51
Newbie here... and.... Southern_gent Jan 18 #75
Yeah. I do think you're off the mark. Lunabell Jan 19 #84
so it's fascist, we just cannot say it is fascist Skittles Jan 18 #53
I see your point Southern_gent Jan 18 #76
We can define Fascism JustAnotherGen Jan 18 #77
are you for real? Skittles Jan 18 #78
Oh he's for real alright JustAnotherGen Jan 18 #80
"that's the price of fresh ideas" tenderfoot Jan 18 #82
yes Skittles Jan 18 #83
And a fairly new person too. Lunabell Jan 19 #87
+1000 Karasu Jan 19 #90
Wait just a damn minute... Trueblue Texan Jan 19 #98
I don't know Cirsium Jan 18 #55
Hozebout "NAZI"? Conjuay Jan 18 #69
The real wolf IS here. "Overused" as the term might seem to you, all I see is people calling a spade a spade. Karasu Jan 19 #89
This 1000 times! nt Trueblue Texan Jan 19 #99
It's the politics of elimination as propounded on The Wizard Jan 18 #36
We are the frogs in the pot and if we look closely..... Hope22 Jan 18 #37
If they win by 0.1%, they will rule like they won by 99.9% dalton99a Jan 18 #38
I don't see this all ending well. elocs Jan 18 #43
Misogyny and Racism played a big part in filling in that dot. haele Jan 18 #47
Full on Traildogbob Jan 18 #52
Agreed. yellow dahlia Jan 18 #56
If there is a REAL election in 4 years JustAnotherGen Jan 18 #81
100% Nigrum Cattus Jan 18 #58
We are fighting... LPBBEAR Jan 18 #63
💯 Six117 Jan 19 #102
You express the core problem very well Picaro Jan 18 #65
Our resistance is not unified yet! RiverStone Jan 18 #66
Signs were apparent in 2016 Ferryboat Jan 18 #67
Apropos, here's an excerpt from a response to a post of mine from yesterday. keep_left Jan 18 #68
Agree with what you stated. But what I am most afraid of Dan Jan 18 #70
Honesty requires reflection and vulnerability mr715 Jan 18 #74
I agree - but you get better JustAnotherGen Jan 18 #79
Totally Agree. DENVERPOPS Jan 19 #85
Knr UTUSN Jan 19 #86
Since we just found out that many Americans have no idea what oligarchy is, we need to come up summer_in_TX Jan 19 #88
My thoughts on what to do... Trust_Reality Jan 19 #91
Billionaires lost I_UndergroundPanther Jan 19 #94
This is the stuff that is being pushed by the left-wing media because it gets good ratings. everyonematters Jan 19 #101
Or Abstractartist Jan 19 #104
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