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18. How US Voting Machines Became Safer Than Ever
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 09:23 PM
Jan 19
Clear Ballot shows just how slow, steady and paper-dependent the industry is.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2024-us-voting-machines-clear-ballot/

https://archive.ph/o8JFk



Chip Trowbridge is confident his voting machines are secure, but he’ll run the thought experiment with you. An assortment of the machines are resting on a counter at the downtown Boston office of Clear Ballot Group Inc., and Trowbridge, the company’s chief technology officer, is facetiously pointing out the bonkers number of steps a bad actor would need to take to compromise one of its ClearCast computer scanners.

Any tampering would have to take place on-site, because the ClearCast systems aren’t connected to the internet. Most arrive at county voting precincts in fastened containers or locked cages. “There’s one 120-volt plug out the back, and that’s it—no Wi-Fi, no Bluetooth, no Ethernet, no nothing,” Trowbridge says. Republican and Democratic officials are supposed to set them up together by tearing security seals with identifying serial numbers and entering unique passwords after booting them up. Data is stored on three redundant drives, including two locked-in USB sticks, and any poll worker inputs on the devices (such as removing one of the sticks) are logged by the equivalent of an airplane’s black box.

Then there’s the paper trail. On Election Day, voters feed their handmarked ballots into the scanner, which is the size of a cash register and has a thick screen on top. It tabulates blackened ovals and captures a digital image of the entire slip for backup, then spits the ballot down into a bolted cabinet so it can be audited by hand if needed. The scanners are tested with sample votes beforehand, and often afterward, to ensure there are no discrepancies between digital counts and physical entries. As Trowbridge entertains and ultimately shoots down increasingly absurd but-what-about-this scenarios, such as counterfeit ballots or malware-laced thumb drives, he stops short with a frank reminder: “We’re already in crazy territory if any of this is happening.”



Clear Ballot and its larger rivals, Dominion Voting Systems Corp. and Election Systems & Software LLC, operate in a different kind of crazy territory these days. The industry has long experienced perpetual upheaval. Following the paper-ballot fiasco of 2000 (hanging chads, anyone?), sweeping regulations pushed the US from punch cards to paperless DREs, or direct-recording electronics. Voters hit buttons or a touchscreen, and their selections were programmed into the computer’s memory. But DREs fell out of favor in the 2010s, because the virtual approach didn’t allow for manual recounts, and they were hard to check for inaccuracies and meddling. So began a shift back to physical ballots, particularly after Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump and Democrats howled about Russian interference and questioned the 2016 election’s legitimacy.

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Some of us, on this forum, have been talking about Musk's involvement in tabulations. yellow dahlia Jan 19 #1
It was the whole lottery scam SledDriver Jan 19 #11
Oh!!! Insightful! yellow dahlia Jan 19 #16
This was proven false almost as quickly as the guy posted it originally EdmondDantes_ Jan 19 #20
We have trump admitting musk got into "vote counting " computers questionseverything Jan 20 #51
If they pulled a number of different strategies like this in a number of states Irish_Dem Jan 19 #23
Absolutely. A lot of contributing variables. n/t yellow dahlia Jan 20 #39
Exactly, all of it very clever. All subtle, multi-factor. Irish_Dem Jan 20 #40
I haven't been talking about it... But I've been Cha Jan 19 #13
And we were told, we "Don't be ridiculous!" Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 20 #37
Right - and get over it...move on. yellow dahlia Jan 20 #38
Too bad there isn't anyone interested in Whyisthisstillclose Jan 19 #2
Maybe Jim Jordan???? lmao vapor2 Jan 19 #26
Put Comer on the case! He's a pit bull! Whyisthisstillclose Jan 19 #27
Trump has no clue what he is yapping about. riversedge Jan 19 #3
Wake up Coolgoober Jan 19 #4
Trump is too stupid to troll Skittles Jan 19 #7
Bullshit innuendo on his part and bait for election denialists ColinC Jan 19 #5
Truth will out malaise Jan 19 #6
I'm with you, doubting malaise. BComplex Jan 19 #29
Agree! True Blue American Jan 22 #55
"Anything can be hacked." - Elon Musk. dchill Jan 19 #8
Remember back in the Bush years when they had Tetris running on voting machines? Initech Jan 19 #21
Uh, yeah. I'm 73. REAL dry behind the ears. dchill Jan 19 #22
tabulators aren't connected to the Internet, they can't be hacked cadoman Jan 19 #25
You don't need to be connected to the internet to "hack" something.nt moniss Jan 20 #35
Very good point. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jan 22 #58
Why do I have a feeling MLWR Jan 19 #9
I think he is... he can't keep his Big Mouth Shut about Anything. Cha Jan 19 #12
He always... 2naSalit Jan 19 #17
And, Always Gloats about Shit... Cha Jan 19 #30
My first thought, Cha!🤪 True Blue American Jan 22 #54
So the Fucker's Big Diarreah Mouth admitted Cha Jan 19 #10
He's thanking Elon, not the voters MadameButterfly Jan 20 #42
Yes! Excellent point. Stupid Mump Didn't thank the Cha Jan 20 #44
The company E S &S makes a voting/counting machine that is commonly used. IDK if Musk is involved with spike jones Jan 19 #14
There have been a lot of problems with ES&S MadameButterfly Jan 20 #43
Trolling. mr715 Jan 19 #15
Boasting Babajida Jan 20 #34
How US Voting Machines Became Safer Than Ever Celerity Jan 19 #18
I can't begin to tell you how many flaws I identified lapfog_1 Jan 19 #32
Simple question: moondust Jan 20 #41
Whatever fix was in, they did it in all 7 states MadameButterfly Jan 20 #46
They had nearly 4 years to perfect it. moondust Jan 20 #48
Thanks to both of you for detailed information MadameButterfly Jan 20 #45
I remember 2004, too! Sparkly Jan 20 #50
Diebold technicians "serviced" the machines MadameButterfly Jan 20 #53
How about using a sample of paper ballots to test validity Sparkly Jan 20 #49
hand marked ballots, not computer marked lapfog_1 Jan 20 #52
Right! True Blue American Jan 22 #57
I worked in the days True Blue American Jan 22 #56
Vote counting computers aka central tabulators Botany Jan 19 #19
I agree Horse with no Name Jan 19 #24
This election it seemed like the Republicans had a strange confidence like they doc03 Jan 19 #28
Oh For Christ's Sake... DET Jan 19 #31
Jesus Fucking Christ Blue Owl Jan 20 #33
Admission of guilt? spanone Jan 20 #36
Can you imagine if a Democrat MadameButterfly Jan 20 #47
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