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lapfog_1

(30,722 posts)
32. I can't begin to tell you how many flaws I identified
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 11:26 PM
Jan 19

in this detailed explanation.

I am probably the foremost computer expert on DU. And I am a former Hacker... and then White Hat... ran security for NASA... did some of the security for the White House ( which isn't really secure ) and once did work for the Brown Company, aka The Puzzle Palace aka The NSA. None of which I can ever discuss in detail other than I had a security clearance. One where they investigated me all the way back to the age of 3 or 4. As in tracked down my parents neighbors that remember me as a 4 year old. grade school teachers and classmates.. all the way to college and into my work life. The FBI was VERY thorough.

Anyone remember the Morris worm ( one of the first widespread hacks )... I was on the team that traced it and killed it.

That system of described security measures including the paper ballots COULD be hacked, given enough resources and the willingness to do so and the key is that even if you didn't hack the paper ballots, is the phrase "so it can be audited by hand if needed"... and understanding how "need" is established. The key to a good hack is to NOT make a big enough change to something that it is noticed but which is big enough to make the desired outcome. Don't swing an election by 20 points over what the polling shows... not when 3 percent will do the trick. Yet make the difference big enough that no one demands a recount ( which MIGHT lead to discovery ).

Think of a very early banking hack. Someone at a major bank wrote COBOL ( god help me ) to calculate accrued interest on every savings account... realized that it rounded to the nearest penny... and they made a slight change to to truncate rather than round... taking the extra fraction of a penny and dropping into a different account. The bank auditors never caught on because the amount of interest owed checked out completely... and the account holders never caught on because a fraction of a penny didn't ever strike them and being "wrong" even if they took the time to calculate the interest owed. Over time and 100s of thousands of accounts, the "extra account" eventually grew too big... and the perps were caught only because the IRS wanted to know the source of the income for this account that was owned by a single individual who DID NOT declare this on his taxes... too greedy and too paranoid. Oops.

The only thing that isn't hackable is paper ballots, marked by the voter, and counted by hand multiple times. In public view and with reporting totals done in public all the way up until you have a state total or, my preference, a national total for the two elected officers to national office. No electronics anywhere near the process.

but I've stated this all before. There isn't any evidence that this election was stolen other than the polling was wrong. But the polling is always wrong but plus or minus... that said... I claim that it is certainly possible.

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Some of us, on this forum, have been talking about Musk's involvement in tabulations. yellow dahlia Jan 19 #1
It was the whole lottery scam SledDriver Jan 19 #11
Oh!!! Insightful! yellow dahlia Jan 19 #16
This was proven false almost as quickly as the guy posted it originally EdmondDantes_ Jan 19 #20
We have trump admitting musk got into "vote counting " computers questionseverything Jan 20 #51
If they pulled a number of different strategies like this in a number of states Irish_Dem Jan 19 #23
Absolutely. A lot of contributing variables. n/t yellow dahlia Jan 20 #39
Exactly, all of it very clever. All subtle, multi-factor. Irish_Dem Jan 20 #40
I haven't been talking about it... But I've been Cha Jan 19 #13
And we were told, we "Don't be ridiculous!" Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 20 #37
Right - and get over it...move on. yellow dahlia Jan 20 #38
Too bad there isn't anyone interested in Whyisthisstillclose Jan 19 #2
Maybe Jim Jordan???? lmao vapor2 Jan 19 #26
Put Comer on the case! He's a pit bull! Whyisthisstillclose Jan 19 #27
Trump has no clue what he is yapping about. riversedge Jan 19 #3
Wake up Coolgoober Jan 19 #4
Trump is too stupid to troll Skittles Jan 19 #7
Bullshit innuendo on his part and bait for election denialists ColinC Jan 19 #5
Truth will out malaise Jan 19 #6
I'm with you, doubting malaise. BComplex Jan 19 #29
Agree! True Blue American Jan 22 #55
"Anything can be hacked." - Elon Musk. dchill Jan 19 #8
Remember back in the Bush years when they had Tetris running on voting machines? Initech Jan 19 #21
Uh, yeah. I'm 73. REAL dry behind the ears. dchill Jan 19 #22
tabulators aren't connected to the Internet, they can't be hacked cadoman Jan 19 #25
You don't need to be connected to the internet to "hack" something.nt moniss Jan 20 #35
Very good point. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jan 22 #58
Why do I have a feeling MLWR Jan 19 #9
I think he is... he can't keep his Big Mouth Shut about Anything. Cha Jan 19 #12
He always... 2naSalit Jan 19 #17
And, Always Gloats about Shit... Cha Jan 19 #30
My first thought, Cha!🤪 True Blue American Jan 22 #54
So the Fucker's Big Diarreah Mouth admitted Cha Jan 19 #10
He's thanking Elon, not the voters MadameButterfly Jan 20 #42
Yes! Excellent point. Stupid Mump Didn't thank the Cha Jan 20 #44
The company E S &S makes a voting/counting machine that is commonly used. IDK if Musk is involved with spike jones Jan 19 #14
There have been a lot of problems with ES&S MadameButterfly Jan 20 #43
Trolling. mr715 Jan 19 #15
Boasting Babajida Jan 20 #34
How US Voting Machines Became Safer Than Ever Celerity Jan 19 #18
I can't begin to tell you how many flaws I identified lapfog_1 Jan 19 #32
Simple question: moondust Jan 20 #41
Whatever fix was in, they did it in all 7 states MadameButterfly Jan 20 #46
They had nearly 4 years to perfect it. moondust Jan 20 #48
Thanks to both of you for detailed information MadameButterfly Jan 20 #45
I remember 2004, too! Sparkly Jan 20 #50
Diebold technicians "serviced" the machines MadameButterfly Jan 20 #53
How about using a sample of paper ballots to test validity Sparkly Jan 20 #49
hand marked ballots, not computer marked lapfog_1 Jan 20 #52
Right! True Blue American Jan 22 #57
I worked in the days True Blue American Jan 22 #56
Vote counting computers aka central tabulators Botany Jan 19 #19
I agree Horse with no Name Jan 19 #24
This election it seemed like the Republicans had a strange confidence like they doc03 Jan 19 #28
Oh For Christ's Sake... DET Jan 19 #31
Jesus Fucking Christ Blue Owl Jan 20 #33
Admission of guilt? spanone Jan 20 #36
Can you imagine if a Democrat MadameButterfly Jan 20 #47
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