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17. Thought experiment: Could blue states pass a law so that. . .

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Fri Feb 14, 2025, 08:23 AM

Feb 14

. . .individual Fed taxes due must be first paid in to a state escrow account which the state would then forward to the Feds as the state deemed due?

None of these ideas are going to happen. So this is more of a thought experiment than a suggestion.

So, I am asking that if a state decided to hold the money until each quarter, as self-employed people do, would that keep each individual from running afoul of the federal laws? Individuals and businesses could argue that they did indeed pay ALL of their federal tax obligations regardless of whether the state government chose to forward to the US Treasury.

Let's be clear. This isn't going to happen. And if anything like this did happen, it would most certainly escalate to violent conflict. The question is whether we are headed there anyway.

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What if the blue states stopped all Federal tax payments? [View all] superpatriotman Feb 13 OP

States do not pay federal taxes. drray23 Feb 13 #1

That is what I meant superpatriotman Feb 13 #2

Im not sure how you would avoid paying taxes drray23 Feb 13 #3

We don't file JustAnotherGen Feb 13 #5

You haven't filed taxes since 2017? MichMan Feb 14 #15

As a citizen DeepWinter Feb 14 #16

If states could suspend payments it would mean military occupation, DJ Synikus Makisimus Feb 13 #4

Since it's individuals JustAnotherGen Feb 13 #7

I think that's the Sovereign Citizen Movement's shtick, yes? DJ Synikus Makisimus Feb 14 #10

No - it's not JustAnotherGen Feb 14 #23

Hopefully the last sentence of you post choie Feb 14 #9

If the middle class and higher JustAnotherGen Feb 13 #6

How are you going to convince every employer to break the law? MichMan Feb 13 #8

It would be a lot easier to just stop buying stuff you don't absolutely need and bring down the economy... AntiFascist Feb 14 #11

This☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ roamer65 Feb 14 #22

This is akin to the blue states seceding. Can that come to be? Be part of Canada? Intractable Feb 14 #12

Convention of States Tickle Feb 14 #13

That is the end game for the republicans Blue Full Moon Feb 14 #14

What do you mean by end game? Tickle Feb 14 #18

They want to rewrite the Constitution Blue Full Moon Feb 14 #19

Thought experiment: Could blue states pass a law so that. . . UniqueUserName Feb 14 #17

State governments don't control that SocialDemocrat61 Feb 14 #20

There would be a lot of foreclosures and hunger in the MAGA States. Ping Tung Feb 14 #21