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Self Esteem

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Thu Mar 13, 2025, 06:54 PM Mar 13

Republicans have figured it out. Democrats have not. [View all]

The Democratic Party only has itself to blame for its journey to irrelevancy.

Republicans came out of the 2008 election unified and defiant in opposition to everything and anything Obama ever wanted to do. They decided that the best course of action was not to play nice with Obama, despite his historic mandate but to obstruct him at every turn. They knew the American people would not hold them to account on anything because Americans don't vote on whether one party plays by the rules or is nice and the other isn't. The American people have shown us time and time again they only value the perception of toughness.

So, Republicans rallied and obstructed Obama on everything. Despite Democrats having a near-super majority, the Republicans forced the party to work for every vote possible and then attacked, attacked and attacked.

And what happened? In 2010, Republicans won back the House in a historic landslide, nearly won back the Senate and reemerged from the smoldering heap Bush had left them - all in two years when, after the November, 2008 election, many people were writing the party's political obituary.

Hell, Republicans nearly ended up winning back the presidency just four years after Bush tanked the economy and left us demoralized in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Despite Obama winning reelection, Republicans dug in. They refused a gun control bill that was largely supported by the American voter and had bipartisan support. They shut down the government in 2013. And what did American voters do? They didn't hold Republicans accountable for any of it - they turned around and gave Republicans a stronger House majority in 2014 and control of the Senate.

Oh but it didn't end there! No, in 2016, when Antony Scalia died, Republicans openly REFUSED to even start hearings on Obama's replacement to the court. No hearings. No vote. They actively held open a seat because they could. Senate Republicans even hinted at opposing letting Hillary fill the vacancy. It was up to the voters, they said! Despite polls showing most Americans felt the seat should be filled, what happened? Republicans won the White House and held their majorities in the House and Senate. Trump was able to fill the seat ... no problem.

Democrats need to understand that there's no rules when it comes to preserving democracy. The party is sleepwalking to its own demise at this rate and it will be the result of refusing to fight the most corrupt administration in history because they're terrified of optics looking bad.

Republicans don't give a fuck. I hate Republicans but I envy their approach.

Trump is teetering politically and the Democrats are comfortable handing him a win. This is the path to a permanent minority if we're being honest.

No one sees the Democrats as fighters. They see them as weak-kneed capitulators. The problem with that is that perception also hits at a personal level.

How can you expect the Democrats to fight for YOU if they're so quick to roll over to the Republicans?

You want to know why Republicans win? Because people see them as fighters - and a party willing to do something ... even if it's radical.

Don't underestimate how well that plays to the median voter.

And there's nothing the Democratic Party is doing to reverse that perception.

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Whatever fights the GOP has within, they vote as one Raven123 Mar 13 #1
👍 underpants Mar 13 #2
Getting so pissed snowybirdie Mar 13 #3
These post are legitimate post USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 13 #5
No but snowybirdie Mar 13 #6
Among those lawsuits, who's the leader who will rally the troops? Orrex Mar 13 #22
how many of our so called leaders are initiating these lawsuits moonshinegnomie Mar 13 #26
Other groups can bring these lawsuits better than our elected leaders. LymphocyteLover Mar 13 #44
Especially since our political leaders probably wouldn't even have standing to file the suit. Wiz Imp Mar 13 #61
While this is true... Egwinsi Mar 13 #43
THIS SITE IS SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT DEMOCRATS. NOT BASH THEM AND CALL THEM LymphocyteLover Mar 13 #42
The people writing these posts are people who WANT to be able to support the Democratic Party, . . . markpkessinger Mar 14 #70
IMO the post crossed the line into more bashing than giving constructive criticism & made false claims about Dems LymphocyteLover Mar 14 #73
It's WAY past time we brought a rocket launcher!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 13 #56
So posters who don't agree with Chuck voting with the R's senseandsensibility Mar 13 #7
No, they're saying that Democrats will continue to lose elections Eddie Haskell 60 Mar 14 #75
Democrats can COOK in the sauce they've made AkFemDem Mar 13 #10
unlike repukes Skittles Mar 13 #16
You've no power nor right to tell DUers to 'Go to Faux News!' You aren't a DU gatekeeper, as much as you may wish so. Celerity Mar 13 #18
Every thing they said moonbeam23 Mar 13 #20
"This, above all: ........ SergeStorms Mar 14 #71
This is 100% legitimate GaYellowDawg Mar 13 #38
True dat!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 13 #53
Why is 40% of the electorate registered as independents? everyonematters Mar 13 #4
That, and..... SergeStorms Mar 14 #72
Been this way for many years, maybe someday the Democrats republianmushroom Mar 13 #8
Will Rogers once said SocialDemocrat61 Mar 13 #13
Yeah. And that was close to 100 years ago. It's nothing new. Wiz Imp Mar 13 #59
I found this very interesting. From a Speech Lyndon Johnson gave in 1966: Wiz Imp Mar 13 #64
Rogers also said SocialDemocrat61 Mar 13 #65
Not the Same Aepps22 Mar 13 #9
Fighting yankee87 Mar 13 #11
THIS THIS THIS johnnyfins Mar 13 #14
How homegirl Mar 13 #32
Active yankee87 Mar 13 #62
WTF!!! The party has fighters. You don't give up on the party because of a few bad pols LymphocyteLover Mar 13 #45
We are the party mr715 Mar 14 #78
YESSS... I'd rather go down fighting in opposition any day and every day!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 13 #54
Now I get why some progressives vote third party or don't vote at all USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 13 #12
No, they are making a very tough choice. They have no good options. LymphocyteLover Mar 13 #47
It takes a well-funded and well-organized infrastructure in place over time dlk Mar 13 #15
We Dems have been saying that for years Javaman Mar 13 #36
There is no Democratic version of the Heritage Foundation or Federalist Society or ALEC dlk Mar 14 #67
Good talk and correct. Buddyzbuddy Mar 13 #17
Thank you, thank you, thank you SE DENVERPOPS Mar 13 #19
Republicans figured out their media doubleplusgood Mar 13 #21
I posted something very similar after the election JMCKUSICK Mar 13 #35
Same boat, different lake. GaYellowDawg Mar 13 #40
Agreed. I'm only sorry that I was JMCKUSICK Mar 13 #57
A new Democratic Party Mascot? EllisWhy Mar 13 #23
A panther homegirl Mar 13 #33
Because we keep voting to have our face eaten? LOL nt Javaman Mar 13 #37
A couple of decades have passed since markodochartaigh Mar 13 #24
Republicans haven't figured out shit. GreenWave Mar 13 #25
Can someone show this to Chuck Schumer? mdbl Mar 13 #27
Fight voteragain Mar 13 #28
Kick dalton99a Mar 13 #29
not even wrong creon Mar 13 #30
it is wrong LymphocyteLover Mar 13 #48
Republicans engage in a street fight: no rules unless it benefits them, otherwise do anything elocs Mar 13 #31
This has been my criticism of Democrats in Congress, not all, some tornado34jh Mar 13 #34
it's not appeasing--- they don't want a govt shutdown, pure and simple LymphocyteLover Mar 13 #49
What are you talking about? How many times have Republicans shut down the government when Obama/Biden were in office? tornado34jh Mar 13 #52
Because Obama and Biden were not willing to ignore the Constitution Wiz Imp Mar 13 #63
I know Republicans are the worst and play by different rules. I'm actually in favor of blocking the CR LymphocyteLover Mar 14 #66
Amen, Amen, Amen, Alliepoo Mar 13 #39
This is a lot of Dem-bashing BS!!! JFC. Total hyperbolic crap. LymphocyteLover Mar 13 #41
My sentiments exactly. Borogove Mar 13 #46
Republican Congressional stategy has been the same for over 20 years, laid out right here in two words DFW Mar 13 #50
DURec leftstreet Mar 13 #51
Trouble is nowforever Mar 13 #55
https://www.democraticunderground.com/11045035 JMCKUSICK Mar 13 #58
Republicans did not nearly win back the Presidency in 2012. Wiz Imp Mar 13 #60
You have been paying attention Cosmocat Mar 14 #68
SO MAD North Coast Lawyer Mar 14 #69
Extremely well said Scubamatt Mar 14 #74
The Onion says it all Nanjeanne Mar 14 #76
I wanted to post a link to that! mr715 Mar 14 #79
People are always angry at me. I think a bat signal goes out when I post. But that's usually because Nanjeanne Mar 14 #80
I've figured out that for the first time in my life I will be leaving the caving in party. Very sad day. nt ImNotGod Mar 14 #77
There is no party, really. Bluetus Mar 14 #84
BE PARTISAN. fuck the reagan loving MEdia. pansypoo53219 Mar 14 #81
I don't disagree qazplm135 Mar 14 #82
This is an EXCELLENT summary, but the problems did not start in 2008 Bluetus Mar 14 #83
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