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waterwatcher123

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50. Democrats Never Get Credit for Preventing a Bad Outcome (it is a Lose-Lose Situation).

Fri Mar 14, 2025, 01:40 PM

Mar 14

It is my understanding that DOGE is furloughed with a shut down too (although Elon will self-fund them and Trump might allow them to work). There is also the possibility that Republicans have a clean CR ready to go as a fallback position. The economy may play a role as well if Trump continues to see it deteriorate under his watch. The economy is already in a free-fall. This shut down might be the switch that precipitates a rapid economic unraveling.

What is clear is that the Democrats will look exceedingly weak if they capitulate to this CR without a fight.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] bigtree Mar 14 OP

LOL awesomerwb1 Mar 14 #1

lol, indeed. bigtree Mar 14 #3

LOL LOL awesomerwb1 Mar 14 #11

I don't see the humor. That you repeated it is not helpful. MineralMan Mar 14 #15

LOL awesomerwb1 Mar 14 #17

I see. MineralMan Mar 14 #18

We needed strength and Schumer gave us this? Sneederbunk Mar 14 #2

where's the courage in surrendering the entire government to Musk and Trump? bigtree Mar 14 #6

The same thing Egwinsi Mar 14 #4

Right. Why would we HELP them? yardwork Mar 14 #12

I'm mostly thinking the shutdown accomplishes most of what they intended bigtree Mar 14 #23

Perhaps the oligarchs (rich folks to Fetterman) will flex their muscle Raven123 Mar 14 #5

Sure; Chuck... EarthFirst Mar 14 #7

prove him wrong bigtree Mar 14 #9

Maybe his plan is to "STOP THE TRUMP AGRNDA!!!" by voting for the Trump agenda? Autumn Mar 14 #10

It will happen anyway Timewas Mar 14 #8

actually it looks like the shutdown will eliminate much of the struggle to get those agencies closed bigtree Mar 14 #16

What was the reasoning behind his initial "NO!" ?? leftstreet Mar 14 #13

That's an interesting argument. MineralMan Mar 14 #14

Republicans will do the same thing no matter what -misanthroptimist Mar 14 #19

I wonder about that principle when it enables Trump WITHOUT legislation bigtree Mar 14 #41

The CR, as others have pointed out... -misanthroptimist Mar 14 #64

Interesting point! ShazzieB Mar 14 #67

that's the consequence of being in the minority bigtree Mar 14 #68

The answer to your last question -misanthroptimist Mar 14 #74

I will answer your question. yardwork Mar 14 #20

he's voting to continue the budget process bigtree Mar 14 #27

I think it's just the opposite. yardwork Mar 14 #28

Refusing to go along with it also forces... Think. Again. Mar 14 #31

a shutdown just adds to the chaos and enables not just angst but actual eviceration without legislation bigtree Mar 14 #33

What? People on an internet message board know more about how it works than Schumer. nt LexVegas Mar 14 #21

A whole bunch of Democratic leaders disagree with Schumer. yardwork Mar 14 #30

Well, if the shutdown is worse for us Just_Vote_Dem Mar 14 #22

why? One is more pernicious than the other. bigtree Mar 14 #29

It looks like we can't win either way Just_Vote_Dem Mar 14 #45

Well you could listen to other Democrats ibegurpard Mar 14 #24

you reflexively jumped to the defense of a shutdown without a wit of care bigtree Mar 14 #32

Schumer is a spineless wimp LW1977 Mar 14 #25

I brought chairs. underpants Mar 14 #26

Why, thank you... don't mind if I do! demmiblue Mar 14 #37

Bigtree, oh, bigtree. You told us for years that all was well in the efforts to prosecute trump for Scrivener7 Mar 14 #34

! demmiblue Mar 14 #38

I'm going to let you go bigtree Mar 14 #39

Buh bye, then! Scrivener7 Mar 14 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author demmiblue Mar 14 #43

Post removed Post removed Mar 14 #65

Bad faith knowing MAGA are going to do destroy federal government anyway !! uponit7771 Mar 14 #35

Schumer is proving Trump has a mandate Emile Mar 14 #36

I can't SocialDemocrat61 Mar 14 #42

Is this obnoxious tactic written down somewhere? Sympthsical Mar 14 #44

Well ... I'm glad to see you, though. Scrivener7 Mar 14 #46

Thank you Sympthsical Mar 14 #48

Honestly. What a damn mess. But do you like the job? Scrivener7 Mar 14 #49

It's super interesting Sympthsical Mar 14 #53

I'm glad to hear it! Scrivener7 Mar 14 #57

Yes, we're watching all of this especially raptly Sympthsical Mar 14 #66

Nice to see you again! n/t Just_Vote_Dem Mar 14 #54

Pelosi thinks he is wrong edhopper Mar 14 #47

Democrats Never Get Credit for Preventing a Bad Outcome (it is a Lose-Lose Situation). waterwatcher123 Mar 14 #50

OMB decides which agencies are considered essential bigtree Mar 14 #55

The problem, for me, is mcar Mar 14 #51

I'm not convinced there are enough Democratic votes bigtree Mar 14 #56

Yep. nt mcar Mar 14 #59

So what would it impact? Obviously federal workers wouldn't get paid, but I believe what is considered essential JohnSJ Mar 14 #52

the actual infrastructure bigtree Mar 14 #58

Thanks for the explanation. JohnSJ Mar 14 #62

"wrestling marm" mr715 Mar 14 #72

You can stick up for Schimer all you want edhopper Mar 14 #60

The Big Picture Matters! "I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the constitution of the United States..." DSandra Mar 14 #61

hard for a party out of power to do that bigtree Mar 14 #63

If you are going to lose, mr715 Mar 14 #69

the CR contains more than just cuts, it has all of the funding of the Biden legislative successes in that bill bigtree Mar 14 #70

And so Democrats are divided mr715 Mar 14 #71

I have a problem using the furloughed workers as fodder in this game bigtree Mar 14 #73