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LWolf

(46,179 posts)
2. I think all the talk comes
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:45 PM
Dec 2012

because some who are militant about xmas being "their" holiday don't acknowledge its pagan roots, or connection to the time before christ, or the meaning the season has for the rest of the world. It's the insistence that it be exclusive to them.

I like the idea of capturing a universal yearning, celebrating the old with the new. I'm more pagan than christian, but I don't mind celebrating the "son" as well as the return of the "sun." I don't mind saying "Merry Christmas," although I'm more likely to stick with "Happy Holidays," since it's more inclusive. I like Christmas music that includes christ, as well as more secular holiday music.

A fully inclusive time to gather, to share, to celebrate coming out of darkness, both physical and metaphorical, to embody the peace on earth I wish people would faithfully cleave to all year long...however we celebrate, I think it's good for us.

Dammit, that's beautiful, Chris! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #1
I think all the talk comes LWolf Dec 2012 #2
When it comes down to it... WCGreen Dec 2012 #3
Very well put. TDale313 Dec 2012 #6
"It's the insistence that it be exclusive to them." 99Forever Dec 2012 #10
It really all goes back to Horus I believe. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #4
I finally watched Religulous last night Kolesar Dec 2012 #5
Yes, we humans are borrowers and thieves and mimics and nothing is new under the sun.... Moonwalk Dec 2012 #7
What you said... nt Bigmack Dec 2012 #9
Cultures develop, rise and decline... WCGreen Dec 2012 #11
Yep! You've got it. It's actually the same as......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #13
Bravo!!!! Well Said! nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #28
Religion: humans' first invention and possible seed of humans' extirpation n/t UTUSN Dec 2012 #8
Perfectly said. K/R RZM Dec 2012 #12
Surely we are human. And Borrowing from other religions is something we have done for centuries... Sivafae Dec 2012 #14
I just don't see it they way you do... WCGreen Dec 2012 #17
Wow....okay Marrah_G Dec 2012 #19
oversimplification datasuspect Dec 2012 #15
Sure I do... WCGreen Dec 2012 #21
Whatever it's called, it just makes sense: REP Dec 2012 #16
Well, they did and shed alot of blood doing it Marrah_G Dec 2012 #18
It's not about forgiving Christian behavior. WCGreen Dec 2012 #23
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #20
One culture absorbing the practices of another = history. nt cecilfirefox Dec 2012 #22
its one thing to adopt and I love that idea. Its another thing to co-opt to kill another roguevalley Dec 2012 #24
The first Human Animal who looked up at the stars probably failed to.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #25
Religion is something humans do DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #26
All of which means, keep UG in Christmas!!! Squinch Dec 2012 #27
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