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93. Do we want a Nanny State?

Reply to originalpckelly (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 02:22 PM

Jan 2012

That is really what it comes down to. Let's ban everything that is not good for people; from junk food to booze to cigarettes.

Mayor Bloomberg is a perfect example of all this. First he started with cigarettes. Next he went after junk and bad for you foods. Now it's alcohol. He want to limit the amount that people can drink, not because of driving accidents, but because drinking is bad for your HEALTH.

Is really what we want in a free country? NO personal choices on anything that might be bad for you? We are starting to see companies not hiring smokers. Do you think it will stop there? Next, they will refuse to hire OVERWEIGHT people. Add your particular vice to that one. You know we are on verge also of the Bedroom Police, from the opposite side of the pollitical aisle, who use HEALTH as an excuse to promote an agenda. Listen to how "bad" for you contraceptives are.

When you start letting "others" chip away at a freedom you think is a vice, it will only be a matter of time before they chip away at one, or all, of YOUR "vices".

Read the writing on the wall.

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Should there be a ban on the sale of cigarettes in drug stores? [View all] originalpckelly Jan 2012 OP

no niyad Jan 2012 #1

Why not? originalpckelly Jan 2012 #2

why not? for all the arguments listed below, which you instantly conflate with niyad Jan 2012 #37

? originalpckelly Jan 2012 #3

And consenting adults need to be free to make up their own damn minds about their own lives & bodies Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #5

Really? originalpckelly Jan 2012 #9

Careful, there, riding that red herring down that slippery slope. You could get hurt. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #12

Vioxx also has problems, should I be able to buy that OTC? originalpckelly Jan 2012 #14

Yeah. Put a big warning on it saying what the risks are Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #22

I had A cigarette once after a couple of drinks. hughee99 Jan 2012 #28

yes. let's have them elsewhere. They don't sell them here. Is there just even roguevalley Jan 2012 #49

No. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #4

Yes, but cheetos can be eaten in moderation... originalpckelly Jan 2012 #6

I don't care. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #8

Should they sell drugs like Vioxx that are known to cause harm? originalpckelly Jan 2012 #11

No, they should increase the fucking giant bloated drug war budget to include nicotine products, too Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #19

You presume that we should make it illegal to possess. originalpckelly Jan 2012 #25

And you're saying just ban the sale of them? Everywhere, now? Or just in "drug stores"? Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #27

Yes, and their sale should Bigmack Jan 2012 #7

And lets throw millions more in jail when the ignore your ban. joeglow3 Jan 2012 #36

No. MADem Jan 2012 #10

OK, as I said above, why not just make every drug over the counter? originalpckelly Jan 2012 #13

Probably because most people can't read for comprehension, never mind read the Merck Manual. nt MADem Jan 2012 #16

exactly. that's my stance. ret5hd Jan 2012 #20

I think that would be preferable to having bone cancer patients in pain because doctors are afraid Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #21

Simple reasons: There is not enough supply The Straight Story Jan 2012 #35

You're obviously a dangerous radical. harmonicon Jan 2012 #64

The Walgreens in New Mexico sell alcohol, too. TheCruces Jan 2012 #85

nicotine and alcohol are drugs, are they not? Quantess Jan 2012 #15

at our Rite Aid you can buy a bottle of Jack or any other hard liquor Maine-ah Jan 2012 #55

Absurd. Of course not. Jean V. Dubois Jan 2012 #17

The sale of cigarettes should be banned edhopper Jan 2012 #18

Because it worked so well for alcohol, yes? leftofcool Jan 2012 #29

Sick of that argument edhopper Jan 2012 #30

Exactly the same. Exactly. pipoman Jan 2012 #32

Drinking is something that most Americans do edhopper Jan 2012 #39

Wrong pipoman Jan 2012 #42

So freedom exists ony for things "that most Americans do"? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #61

I don't think an authoritative, prohibitive law is in and of itself, the reason... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #88

My position is pipoman Jan 2012 #97

Alcohol abuse kills some 75000 Americans each year and shortens the lives of these people The Straight Story Jan 2012 #40

Cigarettes kill half a million edhopper Jan 2012 #41

Nonsense pipoman Jan 2012 #43

Google it edhopper Jan 2012 #44

Yeah, that's what I knew..making up numbers really isn't becoming pipoman Jan 2012 #45

Take a drag on this edhopper Jan 2012 #65

See pipoman Jan 2012 #86

How nice for you. edhopper Jan 2012 #94

see post 56 niyad Jan 2012 #57

You know what's great? Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #23

While we're at it, we should ban EVERY dangerous thing... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #24

How about candy? Salted snacks? Soda? Bonhomme Richard Jan 2012 #26

Cars! Cars kill! Ban them, I say! MADem Jan 2012 #51

You guys missed the biggest, bestest ban deadinsider Jan 2012 #31

Most states have liquor at the Walgreens.. pipoman Jan 2012 #33

Walgreens sells BOOZE too HockeyMom Jan 2012 #34

Interesting history on Walgreens SOS Jan 2012 #89

best get rid of the Texasgal Jan 2012 #38

No bigwillq Jan 2012 #46

no fishwax Jan 2012 #47

Why can't we just let natural selection do it's job! obliviously Jan 2012 #48

"But is there really a healthy cigarette?" Yes there is. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2012 #50

I doubt it... jmowreader Jan 2012 #83

Rechargeable e-cigs are $10-15 and last for 6+ months; cartos $1.50 to $2 for @ 3 days each Waiting For Everyman Jan 2012 #96

Prohibition of vice leads to crime malthaussen Jan 2012 #52

+1 eShirl Jan 2012 #54

no barbtries Jan 2012 #53

I strongly suggest that before you ask for a ban on cigarette sales, that you watch niyad Jan 2012 #56

There is in Massachusetts WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #58

Drug stores ohheckyeah Jan 2012 #59

Cigarettes by prescription only! Blacksheep214 Jan 2012 #60

I LIKE that! Ha! nt valerief Jan 2012 #80

If people want to poison themselves, that's their own choice. backscatter712 Jan 2012 #62

Should drug stores ban the sale of Coumadin/Warfarin? AKA Rat Poison? NYC_SKP Jan 2012 #63

I agree. valerief Jan 2012 #81

Don't like 'em? 99Forever Jan 2012 #66

Sure. Prohibition worked ever so well on booze and pot. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #67

Yes....the more difficult it's made to.... Tikki Jan 2012 #68

Most people ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #73

Actually most of the smokers I 've known... Tikki Jan 2012 #78

Drugs don't equate with health. But cigarettes suck big time. They s/b banned everywhere. nt valerief Jan 2012 #69

Because prohibition has been so successful in other instances... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2012 #75

No, because the stuff in tobacco is a drug. mwooldri Jan 2012 #70

So people have to make an extra stop and increase auto emissions? taterguy Jan 2012 #71

By prescription only ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #72

Telling a store they can't sell a legal product is ridiculous to me. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #74

Drug stores these days are general merchandise stores that include a pharmacy. Morning Dew Jan 2012 #76

no. It's drug store owners decision what to sell. And it cigs are banned from 'drug stores' Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #77

I'm more worried about the stuff they sell behind the counter. n/t rucky Jan 2012 #79

No. MrSlayer Jan 2012 #82

No jmowreader Jan 2012 #84

Not as long as they're legal. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #87

I'm not sure why, but this makes me laugh... Major Nikon Jan 2012 #90

Define "drug stores"? jberryhill Jan 2012 #91

Sure kctim Jan 2012 #92

Do we want a Nanny State? HockeyMom Jan 2012 #93

Thanks mom but no thanks snooper2 Jan 2012 #95