You know I'd love to see a source for this information you have. (Reply #117)

In the discussion thread: Tolerance of "weapon flakes" is coming to an end. [View all]

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:40 PM

Kurska (5,739 posts)

117. You know I'd love to see a source for this information you have.

You're quoting a lot of statistics, but you haven't sourced a single one of them. I'd like to examine it's methodology.

"But if your primary target (no matter how unlikely or unwanted) is another human being, then if you're not saving more lives than are being spent, you're going backwards and it's time to rethink your strategy."

The primary target would be someone trying to do me real physical harm, why would I have sympathy for such an individual especially at my the expense of my well being and personal protection?

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131 replies	Author	Time	Post
Tolerance of "weapon flakes" is coming to an end. [View all]	gulliver	Dec 2012	OP
"Guns aren't cool" is an excellent message.	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#1
word. If you have to raise a weapon, you are in some scary shit	pasto76	Dec 2012	#26
Yo, Yo, Yo my man! Gunz is wack. Word up!	TPaine7	Dec 2012	#41
But but but. "Stand your ground."	TheMadMonk	Dec 2012	#82
iverglas, is that you??	LAGC	Dec 2012	#2
The hyperbole fairy visits many locations. (nt)	Posteritatis	Dec 2012	#4
Obviously, you weren't paying attention there, gunner...	RevStPatrick	Dec 2012	#5
Women of America, remember the play Lysistrata, no nookie or babies for gunners	MightyMopar	Dec 2012	#6
Not normal gun owners.	gulliver	Dec 2012	#9
Or, as I like to say, there's a fine line between a gun nut and a nut with a gun. n/t	catzies	Dec 2012	#10
Here's the actual quote:	lunatica	Dec 2012	#54
You forgot	Berserker	Dec 2012	#3
Maybe it's time for anonymous to ruin gunners credit, that sure would end online gun sales	MightyMopar	Dec 2012	#8
Advocating felony crimes? Really?	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#11
I would be glorious irony if gun dealers and enthusiasts lost the first cyber war	MightyMopar	Dec 2012	#15
Personally...	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#16
Same for those advocating more of same pro-gun bull.	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#17
I'm willing to bet you'll be PPRd long before us	RetroLounge	Dec 2012	#119
Way to project, dear.	Zoeisright	Dec 2012	#18
Way to indulge in bullshit amateur psychoanalysis, "dear."	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#68
When I was a kid, teenager we were taught that guns were not cool	LeftInTX	Dec 2012	#7
I like that	Taverner	Dec 2012	#12
Onward culture warriors...	rrneck	Dec 2012	#13
Indeed, Sir: A Cultural Sea-Change Is More Important That Legal Measures Here	The Magistrate	Dec 2012	#14
Exactly, and perfectly stated.	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#19
That would be a welcomed change....	daleanime	Dec 2012	#21
PERFECT, Magistrate!	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#95
Well said!!! n/t	RKP5637	Dec 2012	#126
Gee, that's awful "inclusive" of you	derby378	Dec 2012	#20
So are you for that kind of thing or not?	Lordquinton	Dec 2012	#25
You appear to be new here	derby378	Dec 2012	#32
Appearances can be decieveing	Lordquinton	Dec 2012	#37
Depends...	derby378	Dec 2012	#49
So you are ok with it, as long as it doesn't include you	Lordquinton	Dec 2012	#51
What I have said, I have said, no more and no less	derby378	Dec 2012	#55
What you have said are silly assertions and strawmen	Lordquinton	Dec 2012	#89
If you own a semi-automatic rifle and/or 30-round magazines you ought to be shunned....	OldDem2012	Dec 2012	#42
What part of "shall not be infringed" did you misunderstand?	derby378	Dec 2012	#48
Lewis and Clark? Really?	thucythucy	Dec 2012	#56
Well-regulated? I already am...	derby378	Dec 2012	#59
Sorry, but that doesn't sound to me like you're nearly	thucythucy	Dec 2012	#65
When this whole debate started last week...	derby378	Dec 2012	#67
Okay, well that explains the Lewis and Clark reference.	thucythucy	Dec 2012	#73
I believe that was an air rifle that tended to require a ton of maintenance....	OldDem2012	Dec 2012	#58
At least you have the First Amendment right to say that...	derby378	Dec 2012	#60
Looks like you're trying to dance away from the 2nd Amendment issue. Duly noted....	OldDem2012	Dec 2012	#61
Why slur my Senator? She's been in the line of fire in real life.	Hekate	Dec 2012	#115
I thought Dan White only targeted Harvey Milk and George Moscone	derby378	Dec 2012	#118
She called out to White as he came in; he shot one, passed by her desk, shot the other	Hekate	Dec 2012	#120
Well, I certainly do not want to move into a neighborhood where these people live.	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#98
That's too bad, because we're practically everywhere	derby378	Dec 2012	#99
I live in liberal New Haven, CT. My neighborhood is full of those awful liberals who	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#101
Not my problem	derby378	Dec 2012	#106
You Of All People, Accusing Someone Of Being Smug.	Paladin	Dec 2012	#108
"Whatever the New York Times says it is..."	derby378	Dec 2012	#114
Oh, dear, yet another recitation of a favorite NRA talking point: you can't comment if you don't	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#111
"NRA talking point" is an incantation beloved by certain religious types.	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#122
It usually translates, in practice, as...	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#125
The nice part of New Haven, eh?	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#109
Yes, it is nice, thank you very much. Mixed religiously, racially, agewise, and gay/straight.	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#113
Feels good to hate, doesn't it? n/t	krispos42	Dec 2012	#22
What I sure do hate is a seeing kids being blown away from bullet holes in their chests.	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#100
So do I; you're avoiding the point	krispos42	Dec 2012	#104
oh spare me your sermonizing.	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#105
Why? We've tolearted yours...	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#110
I don't need to be lectured because I won't tolerate dangerous people living near me...	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#112
You don't get to pick your neighbors.	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#123
This is the stupidest thing ever posted here...	southshore	Dec 2012	#23
...	Quantess	Dec 2012	#71
good lord. Are you feeling OK?	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#102
Wow.	Dr_Scholl	Dec 2012	#24
Stop yer whining	BeyondGeography	Dec 2012	#28
No he is no... It looks like he is talking about all gun owners..	Mec9000	Dec 2012	#31
The OP was including a lot more people than "stockpilers and paranids."	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#35
Another delicate flower!	MightyMopar	Dec 2012	#36
According to the OP, we're also "flakes" n/t	flvegan	Dec 2012	#53
You forgot the part	WilliamPitt	Dec 2012	#97
Shunning in the 21st century? How progressive. Go the full nine yard and break out the scarlet G's	Kurska	Dec 2012	#27
The rightwing is buying those guns to kill and intimidate progressives just like their history	MightyMopar	Dec 2012	#33
I'm an openly gay man who concealed carries to prevent gash bashings.	Kurska	Dec 2012	#47
Hear, hear!	derby378	Dec 2012	#50
I call Bulls#it	MightyMopar	Dec 2012	#75
Wow a new low. Never has anyone openly questioned my identity and my sexuality on DU besides you.	Kurska	Dec 2012	#78
Post removed	Post removed	Dec 2012	#81
Disgusting, I've posted for years in the LGBT forum about gay issues	Kurska	Dec 2012	#83
Or getting hidden works too :3	Kurska	Dec 2012	#84
I haven't read through this thread to see what you're talking about.	BigDemVoter	Dec 2012	#85
It is a personal decision for me, but I feel it is a wise one given my circumstances.	Kurska	Dec 2012	#86
Given that the first you'll probably know about...	TheMadMonk	Dec 2012	#87
I'm very satisfied with my ability to defend myself with my handgun.	Kurska	Dec 2012	#88
I guess it would depend on situations wouldn't it?	TheMadMonk	Dec 2012	#91
And CC permit holders are less likely than the average population to commit a violent crime.	Kurska	Dec 2012	#92
And several times more likely to be the victim of the ULTIMATE...	TheMadMonk	Dec 2012	#93
You know I'd love to see a source for this information you have.	Kurska	Dec 2012	#117
To be truthful the core statistic is simply one that's been...	TheMadMonk	Dec 2012	#124
That is fair, but excuse me if I'm skeptical of it then.	Kurska	Dec 2012	#130
Shunning is a non-violent social change strategy	jberryhill	Dec 2012	#77
What about the statistic: A gun in the home make you 2.7 time more likely to be killed by a gun.	johnnyrocket	Dec 2012	#29
Not when you take out gangbangers and such	Mec9000	Dec 2012	#30
And children of NRA officials, and nutbags who feel they need to own AR15's and the like.	enki23	Dec 2012	#39
Yeah? How's that coming along? nt.	OldDem2012	Dec 2012	#40
In your dreams.	secondvariety	Dec 2012	#43
Brilliant! I always taught my kid	tblue	Dec 2012	#34
K&R	Whovian	Dec 2012	#38
What... no forced sterilization, exiled to the Gulag...	-..__...	Dec 2012	#44
Perhaps if people want to be member of our militia, they could be required	A Simple Game	Dec 2012	#45
Oh. You have a problem with veterans too???	southshore	Dec 2012	#46
No I have no problem with veterans.	A Simple Game	Dec 2012	#52
I believe you'll find	theKed	Dec 2012	#63
Actually, many places of employment will terminate you for bringing a gun to work.	Ruby the Liberal	Dec 2012	#64
As has every place I have worked.	A Simple Game	Dec 2012	#66
Credited - how about "well regulated"?	Ruby the Liberal	Dec 2012	#69
I have said numerous time, their weapons are so valuable that they	A Simple Game	Dec 2012	#70
Seems impossible to have a principled negotiation with a position like that...	Coyote_Tan	Dec 2012	#57
No. Stockpiling semi-auto rifles, high capacity clips and ammo is what is fanatical.	The Midway Rebel	Dec 2012	#62
Gun control advocates have made stockpiling semi-auto rifles, magazines and ammo highly profitable.	k2qb3	Dec 2012	#116
How about we ignore idiots of the ilk	whistler162	Dec 2012	#72
This appears to be a very dishonest post that intends to smear gun-control concepts. This is assault	patrice	Dec 2012	#74
guns and stupidity are linked	samsingh	Dec 2012	#76
Flame bait.	L0oniX	Dec 2012	#79
To all the gun owners getting indignant	DonCoquixote	Dec 2012	#80
On the evening news it was reported they are flying off the shelves	Mojorabbit	Dec 2012	#90
There are virtually no "assault weapons" to be had right now.	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#94
Except on DU where the gungeon will always be second firing range.	aandegoons	Dec 2012	#96
I am offended by the term "Weapon Flakes"	BlueStreak	Dec 2012	#103
People who take the risk of being the next Nancy Lanza should be shunned	Dems to Win	Dec 2012	#107
Law abiding citizens -- and right now, they ARE law-abiding -- deserve what you prescribe?	Bake	Dec 2012	#121
Getting a tattoo on your forehead saying "fuck you" is legal	jberryhill	Dec 2012	#128
I get tired of saying that. But it is nonetheless true. Geez, can't these folks own up to their	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#129
You're going to alienate a LOT of Democrats.	Bake	Dec 2012	#131
You are afraid. That much is clear. But don't throw baby out with the bath.	geckosfeet	Dec 2012	#127

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