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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 07:49 PM

134. You're missing the point - the convicted criminals aren't massacring scores of people at a time.

(Aussie here)

You're missing the point entirely. The NRA is missing the point (no surprises there). Those whining about their "freedoms" are missing the point.

It is not, generally speaking, the hardened criminals who are causing the senseless massacres. Full time criminals and guns is a law enforcement problem, and for the most part they either shoot each other (eg the drug/biker world) or armed guards (bank robberies, etc), and even cops, who already have a gun by their side! A couple of dozen kids getting shot at school is a product of two things:

1) The intent
2) The means

The intent has proven virtually impossible to predict. Yeah sure, it's mental health. But no amount of changes to mental healthcare will prevent these massacres because most of the time the perpetrator has no mental health record and gives no clues that an ordinary person would recognise that they're about to do it.

You simply must look at taking away the means.

This is what we did in Australia (and it was a conservative government at the time, btw). We just had to restrict the means. You can still own a non semi-automatic gun with a small (5 shot) magazine capacity kept secured in a gun safe if you have a genuine reason to do so. But like I've said in a previous posting in this forum, "I might need to overthrow the Gubmint some day" or "I wanna go on a yippee-shoot" or "that gun is just so cool I have to have it" are not considered genuine reasons.

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