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Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:28 PM

wilt the stilt (4,528 posts)

157. chloro flurocarbons

is one. it was phased out.

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182 replies	Author	Time	Post
Why anti-gun laws will never work in US [View all]	golfguru	Dec 2012	OP
Good point!	Turbineguy	Dec 2012	#1
Not to mention the government's track record is quite poor when it comes to banning things	davidn3600	Dec 2012	#2
I challenge anyone	aardvark401	Dec 2012	#110
All or nothing?	sellitman	Dec 2012	#130
chloro flurocarbons	wilt the stilt	Dec 2012	#157
Nah, now it's just the outlaws who have chloro flourocarbons.	EOTE	Dec 2012	#164
Yep...	99Forever	Dec 2012	#3
Where to start?	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#4
Not sure what this has to do with the OP...	zappaman	Dec 2012	#5
"Trained historian"!	cleanhippie	Dec 2012	#136
My best friend is a 5th generation American	golfguru	Dec 2012	#32
They were in colonial times	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#36
and I have no way to refute your splendid knowledge of history.	golfguru	Dec 2012	#48
What works is not more guns	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#53
"There are these things called books...I am sure you have heard of them"	zappaman	Dec 2012	#137
Talking Point of the Day, "We can't change anything, so let's give up!!!"	Ikonoklast	Dec 2012	#6
So we should pass legislation just so we can say we tried?	davidn3600	Dec 2012	#7
What? It's better to give up and say mass shootings of kids is fine	Lex	Dec 2012	#8
Motor vehicle accidents kill more kids than guns	davidn3600	Dec 2012	#18
Really?	zappaman	Dec 2012	#19
Precisely. It's an "accident" when cars kill people. Guns are designed for one goal	Lex	Dec 2012	#21
Not everyone thinks of a gun in that way	davidn3600	Dec 2012	#25
No I'm not proposing to ban all guns. I do know other countries have had success	Lex	Dec 2012	#41
One of the first rational posts I've read on this subject in days...	EnviroBat	Dec 2012	#123
Not to put too fine of a point on it...	JohnnyRingo	Dec 2012	#155
Thanks! I am going start riding an AR-15 to work starting next week!	XRubicon	Dec 2012	#49
You could probably ride a GAU-8 to work...	OneTenthofOnePercent	Dec 2012	#58
Amazing... guns as transportation. What will they think of next.	XRubicon	Dec 2012	#66
Yes, actually.	OneTenthofOnePercent	Dec 2012	#69
What are the odds. wow.	XRubicon	Dec 2012	#73
Mechanical engineer	OneTenthofOnePercent	Dec 2012	#77
ahhhh, weapons are your business. so you personally profit more with less regulations	bettyellen	Dec 2012	#88
Umm, I am not in the personal weapons business. Sorry to dissapoint.	OneTenthofOnePercent	Dec 2012	#92
Actually gun deaths are tracking passing car deaths which is extraordinary	MightyMopar	Dec 2012	#95
Mass shootings of kids is impossible in this place and has not happened since	golfguru	Dec 2012	#23
RW talking point divorced from reality	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#24
Not wise to dismiss something that actually works as RW talking points	golfguru	Dec 2012	#56
Because it is	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#59
You might want to read this about Israel	neverforget	Dec 2012	#33
Correct, those armed guards were instituted to protect against terrorists	golfguru	Dec 2012	#52
Alas they don't post these armed guards	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#55
Please let me hear your solution to IMMEDIATELY protect school children from	golfguru	Dec 2012	#60
Well the gun show loophole	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#62
I'd like a cite for that.	beevul	Dec 2012	#101
Look at ALEC legislation	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#102
Uh yeah, except you said "the NRA is trying to restore gun rights to convicted felons", not...	beevul	Dec 2012	#113
Except the NRA and Alec ave been working on loosening	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#115
Well, I guess that excuses you from backing up what you said...	beevul	Dec 2012	#124
Yup I guess the media made this up	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#127
When called on bullshit, moving the goalposts is an excellent option!	zappaman	Dec 2012	#139
Oh and here you go	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#140
I believe you said "is trying to...", not "tried twelve plus years ago to...".	beevul	Dec 2012	#141
Look, loosening of gun laws is happening	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#142
I didn't say the loosening of gun laws wasn't happening.	beevul	Dec 2012	#143
How about these...	billh58	Dec 2012	#151
Resurrected recriminations from over a decade ago.	beevul	Dec 2012	#158
Just as I suspected, point-by-point	billh58	Dec 2012	#159
Typical.	beevul	Dec 2012	#160
More bile from the NRA...	billh58	Dec 2012	#161
Snort.	beevul	Dec 2012	#162
Oh horseshit Bubba, I just proved that	billh58	Dec 2012	#165
LOL. I didn't lie about anything.	beevul	Dec 2012	#166
Right Bubba.	billh58	Dec 2012	#170
Yup, right.	beevul	Dec 2012	#172
Here you go Bubba	billh58	Dec 2012	#173
Why thanks.	beevul	Dec 2012	#174
I fully understand what	billh58	Dec 2012	#180
Speaking of teachers, please educate yourself before sharing.	libdem4life	Dec 2012	#37
Please educate yourself about Israel's gun laws. Israel bans assault rifles.	Lex	Dec 2012	#42
I have never posted anything in favor of assault rifles	golfguru	Dec 2012	#63
It was the remark about Israel that	Lex	Dec 2012	#70
Do you get double time if you post on a Holiday?	XRubicon	Dec 2012	#51
I am on permanent holiday lol	golfguru	Dec 2012	#61
Or give up and accept mass shootings as the new normal	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#10
Straw Man.	Ikonoklast	Dec 2012	#11
This message was self-deleted by its author	davidn3600	Dec 2012	#15
Not just that, it's historically inaccurate.	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#9
This part got me...	Ikonoklast	Dec 2012	#14
I know.	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#16
My current memo is DO SOMETHING QUICK	golfguru	Dec 2012	#34
Seriously! This is the third post today with the same lame NRA talking point. They're out in force	Squinch	Dec 2012	#35
Lots of NRA talking points showing up on our forum.	sellitman	Dec 2012	#131
It might take 50 years to have an impact, but doing nothing will just put more on street.	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#12
Do you really want to wait 50 years?	golfguru	Dec 2012	#26
Why don't you ask the teachers if they wish to be armed?	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#31
I don't think teachers should be armed. I suspect most don't either.	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#39
My wife is a teacher and she and many of her coworkers would gladly be armed	rl6214	Dec 2012	#108
Spouses of Denizens from Gungeon excepted. Would you give up your guns, if you thought it would	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#117
Would you give someone a gun for protection if you knew it would save their life?	rl6214	Dec 2012	#144
I doubt you can come up with plausible scenario like that, but gun cultists obviously aren't	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#146
I agree on limiting ammo, assault weapons, large cartridges, etc. n/t	golfguru	Dec 2012	#65
Uh, actually teachers in Israel	billh58	Dec 2012	#64
Just since the election there may be 100 million more on the street	rl6214	Dec 2012	#107
I notice you and your gungeon buddies aren't posting your monthly celebration of more guns	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#118
I never have but you will lump anyone and everyone one into any group	rl6214	Dec 2012	#145
Certain assumptions apply.	moondust	Dec 2012	#13
Please read my post above #26 n/t	golfguru	Dec 2012	#28
It won't work because gun nuts think they control the conversation	Taverner	Dec 2012	#17
I have a gun for protection. I would be more easily persuaded to give it up IF....	Honeycombe8	Dec 2012	#20
Hear hear from all the females in US	golfguru	Dec 2012	#29
And what about all the women	thucythucy	Dec 2012	#40
Exactly....because the victims did not have access to the great equalizer	golfguru	Dec 2012	#67
I think you missed the point.	thucythucy	Dec 2012	#121
I'm totally in agreement......	Isoldeblue	Dec 2012	#83
I grow weary of 'it can't be done.'	Comatose Sphagetti	Dec 2012	#22
Welcome to DU	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#27
Incidentally, I do not own a gun	golfguru	Dec 2012	#30
Look at it another way.	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#38
I concur 100% with your points	golfguru	Dec 2012	#46
The trick is keeping guns out of their hands in the first place.	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#68
I vote your post as the most rational, most logical, most practical on this thread	golfguru	Dec 2012	#75
A longer view on where I stand.	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#86
You know why?	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#76
I hear you.	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#82
Good	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#84
Glad to hear it.	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#89
We are both fighting something, and we need to do the car show	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#90
Good luck with the car show and feel better.	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#93
And I got a flu shot this year	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#98
I never get flu shots any more.	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#99
I'm sure it had nothing to do with anti-gun ideologues being nominated for the position.	beevul	Dec 2012	#103
Of course, anybody enforcing the laws	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#104
Except nobody other than you said that.	beevul	Dec 2012	#114
Hum hum, if a gunny says such.	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#116
Uh huh.	beevul	Dec 2012	#125
Is this stupid or what? David Gregory investigated for DC gun laws!!	golfguru	Dec 2012	#43
Read tmz and politico update on this.	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#45
Australia did it.	backscatter712	Dec 2012	#44
Yes, Australia did it. If they did it, we could, too. If we have the will.	Dems to Win	Dec 2012	#97
You should stick to golf	XRubicon	Dec 2012	#47
The result of this line of thinking	billh58	Dec 2012	#50
so golfguru	Fresh_Start	Dec 2012	#54
Why do we pass laws against murder when people murder anyway.	Agnosticsherbet	Dec 2012	#57
That is true...you just proved that laws do not stop lawlessness	golfguru	Dec 2012	#71
We pass laws to set a clear limit of what is and is not acceptable to maintain public safety.	Agnosticsherbet	Dec 2012	#78
and I agree with all of that	golfguru	Dec 2012	#81
Nobody from the President to Congress or the Senate have called for banning all guns.	Agnosticsherbet	Dec 2012	#85
we have illegal firearms for sale because that's how the NRA wants it	BainsBane	Dec 2012	#72
Screw NRA...and this will be my last post tonight...it is nearly bed time.	golfguru	Dec 2012	#79
Your point is that gun control is pointless	BainsBane	Dec 2012	#91
Don't even pretend there has been any attempt to keep guns out of the hands of criminals	BainsBane	Dec 2012	#74
I am perfectly fine with thorough background checks	golfguru	Dec 2012	#80
Too bad	BainsBane	Dec 2012	#87
Uh...what?	beevul	Dec 2012	#109
The most vulnerable to gun violence are poorer females who live in	golfguru	Dec 2012	#126
300,000,000?	OneMoreDemocrat	Dec 2012	#94
Anit-gun laws...rofl!	Rex	Dec 2012	#96
Stringent gun laws that are actually enforced will work.	jmg257	Dec 2012	#100
But it can't be done by the end of the year, so any attempts to do so are useless.	RC	Dec 2012	#111
Can't argue against that...your key words are "if enforced"	golfguru	Dec 2012	#128
Defeatist bullshit. If we can get 50% off the street, let's do it. 30%, it is worth it.	morningfog	Dec 2012	#105
I think we should pass them just to piss off people like yourself.	Comrade_McKenzie	Dec 2012	#106
Your post is complete nonsense.	gulliver	Dec 2012	#112
Excellent post!	billh58	Dec 2012	#120
It is too soon to talk about gun laws...	quaker bill	Dec 2012	#119
I will conclude this thread with 3 points...	golfguru	Dec 2012	#129
Why only children?	quaker bill	Dec 2012	#132
Until the police do what really needs to be done,	golfguru	Dec 2012	#133
But wishful thinking is what WE are all about	Puzzledtraveller	Dec 2012	#122
You're missing the point - the convicted criminals aren't massacring scores of people at a time.	dutchroll	Dec 2012	#134
Indeed. nt	XRubicon	Dec 2012	#135
Thank you for	billh58	Dec 2012	#150
australia.	spanone	Dec 2012	#138
+1.	Robb	Dec 2012	#168
"good guys" and "bad guys" is a fallacy, non-starter	jade3000	Dec 2012	#147
yes and no	golfguru	Dec 2012	#148
sort of, but what about the future	jade3000	Dec 2012	#149
Your scenario is improbable but has a small possibility	golfguru	Dec 2012	#176
Allow me to fix that title for you.	billh58	Dec 2012	#152
Believe he meant: We had terrible public policy;therefore must continue to have it.	Disgraceland	Dec 2012	#154
I believe collecting guns door to door...	JohnnyRingo	Dec 2012	#153
Thank you for your support:	billh58	Dec 2012	#156
No need to go door to door - just have designated collections points...maybe at Gun Stores?	jmg257	Dec 2012	#163
Imagine buying back all 300 mil guns	JohnnyRingo	Dec 2012	#167
Just to be clear - it is not my plan to buy back 300 million guns.	jmg257	Dec 2012	#171
Confiscation?	JohnnyRingo	Dec 2012	#178
Sorry. We tried your way.	Robb	Dec 2012	#169
With all due respect, Robb...	beevul	Dec 2012	#175
What percentage of the American population qualifies as "the bad guys?"	stopbush	Dec 2012	#177
In theory you sound good	golfguru	Dec 2012	#182
America is a gun culture	jambo101	Dec 2012	#179
Just as a reminder	billh58	Dec 2012	#181

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