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derby378

(30,252 posts)
136. Not falling for it
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:28 PM
Jan 2013

The only way you can keep an NFA weapon is if you let the ATF confiscate it first, then you go through the fingerprinting, photographing, interview with Federal agents, plus a $200 tax stamp for your trouble, and a 60-day waiting period.

What, you think the Feds are going to let me hold onto an NFA weapon without a permit in hand? This is a gun grab.

Good idea, will do so peacebird Dec 2012 #1
Google "gun defense" too. n/t L0oniX Dec 2012 #2
Just did and that's a lot of NRA talking points. GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #4
That is the intent of that poster, to derail this OP nt stevenleser Dec 2012 #5
...because fair and balanced is not just for Fox news. n/t L0oniX Dec 2012 #8
How unsurprising that cheap shots would be taken by a gun enthusiast. nt stevenleser Dec 2012 #9
Again with the fair and balanced Fox news twist ..."gun enthusiast" L0oniX Dec 2012 #10
You tell me. You seem to know a lot more about Fox News than I do. You agree with hosts there stevenleser Dec 2012 #11
I know this ...the gun debate on DU is totally one sided ...and that is not a debate of any sort. L0oniX Dec 2012 #13
That a huge percentage of your fellow DUers disagree with you ought to give you pause. stevenleser Dec 2012 #16
Going along with the gang is not always the right thing to do but it sure does make... L0oniX Dec 2012 #18
if it isn't right why are you doing it? you are a drone! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #56
P.S. thanks for kicking my OP on gun control, and demonstrating your right wing viewpoints. nt stevenleser Dec 2012 #12
Wanting balance is now "right wing viewpoints". OK n/t L0oniX Dec 2012 #14
#56 farminator3000 Dec 2012 #57
Particularly "people of color" in the inner cities Berserker Dec 2012 #20
whaaaa???? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #36
Apparently you would prefer gun nut, or perhaps gungeoneer? Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #21
Exactly. Why is "Gun Enthusiast" considered a slur now? Isn't that what they are? stevenleser Dec 2012 #28
In passing, neither term bothers me in the least ... spin Dec 2012 #54
At least he didn't say gun nut or gun fetishist or rl6214 Jan 2013 #62
I feel sorry for you bongbong Jan 2013 #79
Back to your bong I see rl6214 Jan 2013 #112
So is the 2nd amendment. n/t L0oniX Dec 2012 #7
if you are seriously trying to say the NRA owns the 2nd amendment, or has any frigging regard for it farminator3000 Dec 2012 #39
Google "home invasion" might be more accurate AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #80
Just like FOX ...they are not interested in fair and balanced. n/t L0oniX Jan 2013 #105
Thanks for the kick of my pro-Gun Control OP! nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #107
I would suggest looking at the causes of crime, and addressing those. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #3
No, we want to look at both. The solution is multi-faceted with guns being part of solution. Hoyt Dec 2012 #6
here's an good article (old) about the causes of murder. from 1957 - hardly ANY GUNS farminator3000 Jan 2013 #70
More attention should be paid to the 'well-regulated' part of the 2nd amendment. Blanks Dec 2012 #15
I agree, and the point of that part of the gun control segment on my show is, getting to the point stevenleser Dec 2012 #17
Did your show discuss how we have reduced gun deaths hack89 Dec 2012 #19
We reduced the proportion of male youths aged 16-26 in the population and that is what tracks Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #23
More guns did not decrease gun deaths. hack89 Dec 2012 #25
umm actually it has resulted in more gun suicides. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #27
Since we slashed criminal gun violence without strict gun control hack89 Dec 2012 #30
Thank you, Warren libodem Jan 2013 #151
right, more guns "did not decrease". THEY INCREASED murders. they do it EVERY DAY 18.8 times farminator3000 Jan 2013 #71
did your post contain a link or any truth, AT ALL? i think not- "The simple truth is that more guns farminator3000 Dec 2012 #33
Go read the DOJ and FBI Uniform Crime Reports hack89 Dec 2012 #37
i've seen all that, thanks farminator3000 Dec 2012 #40
Let me show you an AWB legal "assault weapon" hack89 Dec 2012 #42
Rifles and shotguns combined account for about 3% of murders. hack89 Dec 2012 #43
There was never a ban on guns during the expired AWB ... spin Dec 2012 #58
and? isn't it odd how you never even mention the NRA for some reason? as if it doesn't exist? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #59
Well there are going to be a lot more firearms in civilian hands in the immediate future. ... spin Jan 2013 #61
civilians are running out of hands for the damn guns. do you shoot with your feet? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #69
I have never bought into the NRA propaganda that the feds will confiscate my guns ... spin Jan 2013 #101
good for you! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #108
That's a good link.Thanks. (n/t) spin Jan 2013 #110
no. read this. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #60
1992 - 24,703 deaths. 2010 - 14,748 deaths hack89 Jan 2013 #66
And yet all those states with lax gun laws saw declines in gun violence hack89 Jan 2013 #67
that is complete BS- the 5 states with worst laws=most deaths,5 with best laws=least deaths- read it farminator3000 Jan 2013 #72
Statistics give you problems don't they? hack89 Jan 2013 #82
they are a problem when you don't provide any, slappy farminator3000 Jan 2013 #84
I gave you a whole web site of official crime reports hack89 Jan 2013 #87
and cherry picked ONE number from that site, stop wasting my time look at post #88 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #90
You are looking at one state hack89 Jan 2013 #98
you are looking at one number and saying it is proof for a bunch of hoo-hah farminator3000 Jan 2013 #124
No - I am looking at multiple tables spanning decades hack89 Jan 2013 #126
look at this and post #130 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #132
So a single NY Times article trumps decades of FBI statistics? hack89 Jan 2013 #135
see #145 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #146
If it's so low, why don't the gun cultists hang up their friggin guns. Hoyt Dec 2012 #55
Because we don't only have guns for self defense. hack89 Jan 2013 #65
And, there are other reasons gun cultists don't admit, sometimes to themselves. Hoyt Jan 2013 #68
they can't admit it if they're being brainwashed! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #74
then why do you keep saying they are so necessary and vital for your protection farminator3000 Jan 2013 #73
I shoot purely for recreation. hack89 Jan 2013 #85
You can always take up a hobby that is better for society. Hoyt Jan 2013 #91
My hobby has never hurt a single person. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #97
Maybe not directly, but yes it does hurt indirectly. I'm sure you don't care, though. Hoyt Jan 2013 #99
Should I stop drinking beer? hack89 Jan 2013 #102
Definitely, also taking prescription meds that affect judgement, while around your lethal weapons. Hoyt Jan 2013 #103
Can I drink if I have no guns? hack89 Jan 2013 #104
I did what you asked. aikoaiko Dec 2012 #22
you can keep your gun. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #34
Not falling for it derby378 Jan 2013 #136
Wow Steve, you rang the gungeoneer bell on this one. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #24
Give them props for at least recognizing the danger what I propose poses to their precious guns. stevenleser Dec 2012 #26
I think people are very much aware how much gun violence has fallen hack89 Dec 2012 #31
really? twice in the SAME THREAD??? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #35
Go see #37. Then go study some actual data. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #38
ha ha ha ha ha! stealing my trick are ya? #40, right back at ya! woo hoo! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #41
Go back and read both my answers. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #44
i did. they don't mean a thing. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #49
Your ignorance regarding the AWB is showing hack89 Dec 2012 #50
i thought i used it pretty well to confuse the crap outta ya! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #51
What an incoherent mess. Straw Man Jan 2013 #63
i agree, this guy is paid WAY too much. making you look bad, really...focus, now... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #75
The only gun ban from 1994 to 2004 was the AWB hack89 Jan 2013 #64
how could a GUN BAN lower violence when VIOLENCE HAS NOT ACTUALLY GONE DOWN?!?!? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #77
The FBI and DOJ disagree with you. hack89 Jan 2013 #81
no,they don't,you are using ONE number from 1 of their pages,and not using it very well, i'm afraid farminator3000 Jan 2013 #88
Can you at least try to understand what you post? hack89 Jan 2013 #89
isn't UNDERSTNDING YOU more important? i know what i'm saying, do YOU? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #92
I never said it was down because of more guns hack89 Jan 2013 #96
to make your "50%" thing correct, you'd say... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #93
So tell me how the AWB impacted deaths due to handguns hack89 Jan 2013 #95
i won't because it didn't. again, post #130... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #133
i think you are trying to brainwash people about gun violence and you should stop farminator3000 Jan 2013 #76
Too bad you have no hard facts to back up your opinion. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #83
(Fact#1 states with least gun laws=more deaths)+(Fact#2 states with most gun laws=least deaths)= farminator3000 Jan 2013 #111
Fact 4: all those states saw significant reductions in gun violence hack89 Jan 2013 #113
i don't think you can call it a "fact" when it is just some words you type. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #117
No - there are actual hard facts provided by the FBI hack89 Jan 2013 #118
the FBI would be the 1st to say they aren't in the 'facts' business. those are numbers that you are farminator3000 Jan 2013 #125
2006 = 10,225 deaths by firearm. 2010 = 8,775 deaths hack89 Jan 2013 #128
that sure ain't 50%, says nothing about where the deaths were or what the gun laws were in place farminator3000 Jan 2013 #130
You don't read very well, do you? hack89 Jan 2013 #134
i don't even have to read to know you are full of it farminator3000 Jan 2013 #145
Yet with more guns and laxer laws the rates fell for 20 years. hack89 Jan 2013 #148
more guns means nothing- what about the number of gun OWNERS going down? means less guns in public farminator3000 Jan 2013 #149
So we are on the right track it would appear hack89 Jan 2013 #150
but it has nothing to do with more guns. remember that part. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #152
You would be wrong about non- lethal shootings being up hack89 Jan 2013 #153
The press needs to stop shielding the public from the victims of gun violence Fresh_Start Dec 2012 #29
thanks steve!! great work spanone Dec 2012 #32
check this link out farminator3000 Dec 2012 #45
Your problem is with the Constitution regjoe Dec 2012 #46
No, that is what I am talking about. Moving the needle so we can amend it. nt stevenleser Dec 2012 #47
no, you might have a problem with Scalia's latest, though farminator3000 Dec 2012 #52
I never mentioned my "guns" regjoe Jan 2013 #114
Your continued use of the term billh58 Jan 2013 #121
Interesting OPINION regjoe Jan 2013 #143
Spoken like a true NRA billh58 Jan 2013 #100
Sigh regjoe Jan 2013 #115
Of course you billh58 Jan 2013 #120
As expected, and quite typical regjoe Jan 2013 #122
Typical NRA response: billh58 Jan 2013 #123
"NRA" is an incantation, not a refutation. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #131
True dat derby378 Jan 2013 #137
What is sad regjoe Jan 2013 #142
You are still spewing billh58 Jan 2013 #144
Raising awareness this way could incite fear and uneasiness. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #48
just awareness, thanks, you are the scared, uneasy one... farminator3000 Dec 2012 #53
kick for stevenleser spanone Jan 2013 #78
And another kick for the OP. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #86
No Shortage Of Gun Violence At Start Of New Year (Huff Post) we only made it 30 minutes into 2013... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #94
Am going to repost this to the FB page of my show. nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #106
you certainly are correct about that google thing! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #109
All we need now is enough people to do it. I posted your links last night. stevenleser Jan 2013 #116
don't cha love the internets? cool, thanks! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #119
Little Girls Survives New Year's Shooting (sic) (come on, ABC? sp. error in the actual web address?) farminator3000 Jan 2013 #127
12:33 PM EST Jan 02, 2013 - Police: Man kills self after fatally shooting girlfriend-WTAE Pittsburgh farminator3000 Jan 2013 #129
You may want to check out billh58 Jan 2013 #138
Great stuff. thank you! nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #139
Did you explain to your audience that CRS reports as gun number increased, murder rate decreased? jody Jan 2013 #140
Farminator has posted the links debunking this already. nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #141
did you happen to mention your 'CRS report' is 118 pages long and you posted 2 lines? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #147
Sandy Hook kids face 1st classes since shooting farminator3000 Jan 2013 #154
Another K&R to billh58 Jan 2013 #155
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