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In reply to the discussion: "Man-bashing." My favorite DU pule. [View all]Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)48. I'm not sure it's all that difficult, but it seems to be for some
Civil rights and privilege are two different things and shouldn't be confused, yet many manage to do it. Race and gender are two different things and shouldn't be confused, yet many manage to do it.
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I noticed you didn't get a response from the other side on this in at least two different requests
Major Nikon
Jan 2013
#311
yep... every man who resists the idea cites a personal exception. refuses to measure it apples to
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#5
Do people think they should be more wealthy than every single woman and African-American
gollygee
Jan 2013
#72
Eggsactly The comparisons are outrageously stupid. One said that his two sons were making less money
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#78
Beyonce and the Kardashians rule with money AND the ability to incite hormonal reactions in men, LOL
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#115
his example was that white men are the only group who earn less than their parents
BainsBane
Jan 2013
#138
you have been given so many examples you ignore. you dont believe in patriarchy, we get that. but,
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#195
i like tom brady. idd wonderful things for my fantasy team last year. lost him this year.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#8
Then it's weird that you stepped back to it only being an "opinion" a few posts ago. Do you think
GOTV
Jan 2013
#285
it cost some of us a whole lot. do you know, on this board of progressives, women that speak out
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#101
No, any more than white people can be abolitionists as they are neither black nor slaves.
DRoseDARs
Jan 2013
#65
You know. The skirts have it made. I don't know what all the nagging is about.
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jan 2013
#17
The idea of "White Male Privilege" is difficult to understand when you pick one specific (if
Brickbat
Jan 2013
#30
I'd put it this way ... all else being equal ... there is White Male Privilage.
JoePhilly
Jan 2013
#37
studies have shown that white sounding names get up to 50% more chance of call back than black
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#40
And studies have shown that applicants for ditch digger and similar unskilled labor
eridani
Jan 2013
#182
yes, you repeatedly make your point. racism? address. sexism? wha? no such thing.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#274
really.... you haev made your position clear. i live in a state of men like you. i get it.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#277
and, chances are that many non-white-male-straight people who wanted that job weren't considered
spooky3
Jan 2013
#243
I don't think anyone here is denying that economic class divides the "haves" and "have nots"...
YoungDemCA
Jan 2013
#225
Well said. A lot of people have difficulty thinking in terms of distributions, degree/extent, etc.
spooky3
Jan 2013
#242
I grew up knowing that to be born white was to be privileged and that to be born black...
freshwest
Jan 2013
#31
"25 year old straight white male who still works a crappy, close to minimum wage retail job"
Scout
Jan 2013
#69
Even if I didn't like the content of your post I'd have rec'd it for the use of "pule"
Lone_Star_Dem
Jan 2013
#46
I'm grateful you said this Will but many of us saying the same thing get slammed every time.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#64
It strikes me that this is yet another excuse to argue futilly over a term instead of ...
planetc
Jan 2013
#128
the only thing i pulled out from your post, though interesting read, is when there is a physical
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#193
But this "complementary" stuff is used as a facile excuse for any and all gender inequalities.
nomorenomore08
Jan 2013
#181
"...favorite DU pule." It's hard to pick one. Kudos to those who can, especially with all the
retread
Jan 2013
#81
This belongs in Meta next to the puling OPs, but I'm giving it a kick and a rec anyway.
yardwork
Jan 2013
#106
many white female acknowledge and discuss white female privilege thru out these threads. nt
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#125
"but a man claiming to be a feminist is the equivalent of a hammer claiming to be a nail"
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2013
#127
it is only how you choose to interpret. many many men, whites, understand the concept
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#142
Being rhetorically kicked in the head is not subject to interpretation. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2013
#152
not long ago i had to deal with an issue with something in the house. i forget. but, male domain.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#200
Thank you for your understanding re: men claiming to be feminists. As you are obviously aware, many
redqueen
Jan 2013
#146
Thanks, redqueen. Maybe someone will successfully go about the process of redefining the word to
Zorra
Jan 2013
#287
Eons of patriarchy and internalized misogyny are enormously difficult to dislodge.
redqueen
Jan 2013
#295
Sure, one datapoint isn't useful. How about if we use ALL the datapoints?
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2013
#170
If you don't want your opinions challenged, there are several solutions.
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2013
#174
To edify once meant to put up a building. From the Latin ĉdificare, "to build, construct."
WilliamPitt
Jan 2013
#265
EXACTLY the existance of white male privilege and female chauvanism are not mutually exclusive
JAbuchan08
Jan 2013
#186
201 demonstrates you have your own definition which is not the mainstream definition
Major Nikon
Jan 2013
#206
You'd probably be understood better if you didn't attempt to pass off your opinions as fact
Major Nikon
Jan 2013
#214
except, you would have to give at least one example of the desire to "bring white males down"
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#211
one example of the desire to "bring white males down". i ask you have an example
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#226
you make an argument with a falsehood to derail. i called you on it. you cannot answer. nt
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#232
+++1! & Not differentiating the two does NO good service to social/economic justice. It, in fact,
patrice
Jan 2013
#262
+1 I don't get it either. I'm not a father; that doesn't mean that I don't understand fathering, nor
patrice
Jan 2013
#257
A lot of this I agree with but call bs on men not being able to be feminists.
uppityperson
Jan 2013
#296