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Myrina

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37. Agreed.

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:11 AM

Jan 2013

Or kids who get hold of the gun when they're pissed at the teacher, or another student ... all hell breaks loose again.

NO guns in schools. Period.
What we need to do is figure out why Schools are so often the places of such confrontations.
I think it's because our children don't know how to take 'no' for an answer anymore, they don't know how to negotiate, the biggest meanest bully is the one with the most power and the issues that historically have troubled our children are now magnified.

Rather than arming everyone to the teeth, we need to address the causes of such distress, rage, trauma in the first place.

JMHO ...

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I have no doubt, that if teachers were armed---students would die, at the hands of the teacher. [View all] trumad Jan 2013 OP

I think you are right. Skidmore Jan 2013 #1

If the weapon is secured/locked up what use it is in an emergency? Sheepshank Jan 2013 #46

Or armed guards? Graybeard Jan 2013 #2

Arming teachers is a much worse idea than arming guards BlueStreak Jan 2013 #34

Re: "we could hire professionally trained guards and hold them to a set of standards" eomer Jan 2013 #65

I agree. But at least there is some logic to that BlueStreak Jan 2013 #72

I don't think all or even most (or possibly any) teachers should be armed. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #3

You're worthless and weak!! RadiationTherapy Jan 2013 #4

Statistically speaking, a gun has been involved in 100% of all gun deaths. Xipe Totec Jan 2013 #5

Brilliant. tavernier Jan 2013 #8

++++1! CrispyQ Jan 2013 #57

That's a problem, isn't it? MNBrewer Jan 2013 #6

Guns Do Not Belong In Schools. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #7

And the example being set for children is horrific. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #56

I would agree with that. apnu Jan 2013 #9

And those are probably the ones michigandem58 Jan 2013 #15

Good point. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #10

Obviously we should arm the students, too Orrex Jan 2013 #11

Really. This. October Jan 2013 #12

And after all, who wouldn't Ilsa Jan 2013 #22

See? It's the only solution that makes sense. Orrex Jan 2013 #26

You and I forgot to Ilsa Jan 2013 #69

Or just broke up with a girlfriend, orwho felt slighted...really they deserve guns as an outlet n/t Sheepshank Jan 2013 #48

But students might threaten the janitors. So janitors should be armed as well, etc, etc, etc..... nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #70

In elementary schools the issue for me is that little children might grab the gun. Jennicut Jan 2013 #13

Statistically it is inevitable. leeroysphitz Jan 2013 #14

In any tense situation, the introduction of guns is just a tragedy waiting to happen. nt Chorophyll Jan 2013 #16

A nut bag parent started yelling at a teacher during pickup at my kid's school the other day. wildeyed Jan 2013 #17

DURec. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #18

Plus nutbag Students... DaveJ Jan 2013 #19

You must have taught before. narnian60 Jan 2013 #33

If not by the teacher, by the teacher's arms. The idea is get fewer guns into schools .... marble falls Jan 2013 #20

and vice-versa. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #21

My brother was assaulted by a student once... kag Jan 2013 #23

I think there are many intelligent students who would refuse to go to school... peace13 Jan 2013 #24

A co-worker brought up this fabulous point--it'd be so much easier for pedophile teachers justiceischeap Jan 2013 #25

This would mesh nicely with Stand Your Ground laws Orrex Jan 2013 #27

I had a couple of high school teachers that I'm sure didn't need a handgun Lex Jan 2013 #28

If you arm teachers, then parents will feel it necessary to arm their children no_hypocrisy Jan 2013 #29

And then the NRA will call for arming the students. earthside Jan 2013 #30

I have no doubt either, in certain schools the rate would be high too uponit7771 Jan 2013 #31

When I asked my son about how he would feel with armed teachers in his school, he kind of shrugged, Brickbat Jan 2013 #32

So... who proposed this? bobclark86 Jan 2013 #35

I don't think anyone really has LiberalEsque01 Jan 2013 #38

Then there are those "superior" people, better off running with scissors....just saying n/t Sheepshank Jan 2013 #50

What---you think the NRA wouldn't support this... trumad Jan 2013 #41

And where will these thousands of guards come from jberryhill Jan 2013 #58

Agreed! SoapBox Jan 2013 #36

Agreed. Myrina Jan 2013 #37

Schools being gun free zones is a safety, not crime, issue Recursion Jan 2013 #39

So basically.. LiberalEsque01 Jan 2013 #40

You're more likely to be struck by lightning while being eaten by an alligator... Recursion Jan 2013 #42

I think.. LiberalEsque01 Jan 2013 #45

Either they're "such rare incidents" and more guns in the schools gollygee Jan 2013 #47

You're not thinking clearly though LiberalEsque01 Jan 2013 #49

I'm speculating, as are you gollygee Jan 2013 #59

Lots of schools and places LiberalEsque01 Jan 2013 #60

You have to weigh the threat of the guards vs. the threat of violence by others gollygee Jan 2013 #61

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #63

In 2008, there were 592 accidental firearms deaths in the US. sofa king Jan 2013 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Jan 2013 #66

dumb laws that will do nothing more than create war zones. Sheepshank Jan 2013 #43

Hey..... a good candidate for US Sec of Ed, then. Smarmie Doofus Jan 2013 #62

How many times do highly-trained police officers make mistakes in wiggs Jan 2013 #44

We should simply clone George Zimmerman a few thousand times and let him roam the halls. Cary Jan 2013 #51

What does Bill Gates think? He knows everything. n/t Smarmie Doofus Jan 2013 #52

Remembering some of the teachers I had in school there is no way they doc03 Jan 2013 #53

I've had teachers that "no-way" would I trust them with a loaded gun. They were not RKP5637 Jan 2013 #54

or teachers and other students would die at the hand of the students Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #55

It would certainly make it easier to happen treestar Jan 2013 #64

How many guns are currently in schools? Do we have any idea? Recursion Jan 2013 #67

I think we'd see more than a few accidental shootings as well... cynatnite Jan 2013 #68