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bvar22

(39,909 posts)
26. My Wife & I are non-violent, advocates for non-violence,
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:36 PM
Jan 2013

...and we own guns.

We live in a very rural area (Ouachita Mountains, Arkansas) surrounded by National Forest.
We are committed to living as sustainably, independently, and Green as possible.
We grow most of our own food,
keep chickens and Honey Bees,
Veggies, Fruit Trees and various cultivated Berries.
Next year, we are going to add either a few yearling calfs, or pigs, or sheep (haven't decided which yet).

We are Liberal FDR Working Class Democrats who own several long guns, and a hand gun.
We maintain them, and shoot them at least twice a year on our rural property.
We keep them all loaded, readily accessible,
but out-of sight and covered on a wall rack in the back hallway.
(We have no children or adolescents in our home.)

I have used them to protect ourselves, our property, our stock and our pets,
and will do so again if the need arises,
though I prefer to Live Trap & Relocate.

At the current time, we are not hungry enough to hunt,
but would do so if the need arises,
and will have the necessary skills and tools to do so effectively and efficiently.
That was Part-of-the-Deal we made when we moved out here from the Big City in 2006.

We recently raised a rescue fawn,
and LOVE her dearly,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1182456
but we also have venison in the freezer (gift from a neighbor)
and would hunt deer (but not THAT one) if necessary, though we prefer Game Birds.
Such is LIFE.

This life is not for everybody.
In addition to all the normal activities associated with daily life,
living out here we also must be:

*sewage maintenance and repair workers

*safe waste disposal experts

*Environmental Protectors

*operate and maintain our own water works and water delivery system

*health inspectors and vets for our Chickens and HoneyBees

*wildlife management and control

*Building Planning, Repair, & Maintenance

*Power production and power plant management specialists
(We are currently on the Rural Electric Grid, but will be 100% independent in the near future. We have lived 100% solar in the past.)

*First Responders
(My wife is currently the only Medical First responder for over 60 square miles
We are both active FireFighters and Emergency Responders)

and last, but not least,

*Emergency Law Enforcement and Protection
While 9-11 DOES answer, it takes over 20 minutes for emergency help to arrive.


Neither of us has or wants a Concealed Carry Permit,
or carry guns when we leave the property,










And not just gun lovers... judy Jan 2013 #1
"As long as you hate the right person." How very true. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #5
Nonviolent revolutions are the only ones that work Recursion Jan 2013 #15
Yes, absolutely, I did mean that! judy Feb 2013 #59
Every church in every town Ron Green Jan 2013 #2
"Gun lovers." Being from the South, I took a start, there... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #3
changed to "advocate".. I don't recall MLK jr. and his supporters ever taking guns into situations G_j Jan 2013 #6
I appreciate the change, even though it was of the "smaller caliber" flip-offs... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #9
Look up the Deacons for Defense ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #44
The Washington Post had a recent article on the Deacons... PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #51
Because all gun owners are inherently violent? nt hack89 Jan 2013 #4
no, most PEOPLE can be G_j Jan 2013 #7
I'm sure there are some non-violent gun lovers out there. dawg Jan 2013 #8
But the common sense you invoke is subjective Lurks Often Jan 2013 #10
old arguments marions ghost Jan 2013 #12
Get back to me on that when both branches Congress refuses to pass anything n/t Lurks Often Jan 2013 #13
And your point is....? marions ghost Jan 2013 #14
Thanks for another fact free post Lurks Often Jan 2013 #16
Didn't think you had any point marions ghost Jan 2013 #18
You're right, it is subjective. dawg Jan 2013 #19
Some comments Lurks Often Jan 2013 #21
I think you make some very good points. Here is my take ... dawg Jan 2013 #23
Comments Lurks Often Jan 2013 #24
"..magazines holding more then 10 rounds have been around since at least WWI." G_j Jan 2013 #33
and you can make certain types of chemical weapons Lurks Often Jan 2013 #38
Don't you think it would be better G_j Jan 2013 #39
That's a pretty pathetic post n/t Lurks Often Jan 2013 #40
Thank you G_j Jan 2013 #41
Hell no! I don't know one personally who has had to use their CCW rustydog Jan 2013 #11
The Fear is real, however tama Jan 2013 #53
Yes, I ponder it, as an ideal. Bake Jan 2013 #17
That is why I don't own a gun Taverner Jan 2013 #20
People often ask me about buying a firearm for self defense ... spin Jan 2013 #29
I've known people who killed in self defense Taverner Jan 2013 #30
Of course they do and they may feel guilt for the rest of their life. ... spin Jan 2013 #32
Nope. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #22
You cannot know that for certain given the evidence available to you. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #45
Sorry, But I'm Not Bound By Your Rules Of Evidence. Paladin Jan 2013 #50
Without evidence, *any* claim is no different than religious faith. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #57
Most of the gun people I know hope to never use their weapons on people aikoaiko Jan 2013 #25
My Wife & I are non-violent, advocates for non-violence, bvar22 Jan 2013 #26
Not for me. If some violent street criminal is about to attack me, he will get a violent response. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #27
Why would they? still_one Jan 2013 #28
I've practiced nonviolence all my life slackmaster Jan 2013 #31
hahaha no bajaman2013 Jan 2013 #34
I had to work for 30 years to get OUT of the city. bvar22 Jan 2013 #35
haha bajaman2013 Jan 2013 #36
"I've never left miami and i don't plan on it," bvar22 Jan 2013 #37
+1 Glassunion Jan 2013 #46
Have you ever given thought tama Jan 2013 #56
Never crossed their minds. baldguy Jan 2013 #42
How would you know? Is it unpossible that some might just not agree with you? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #47
I can see some annoying troll has replied to my post. baldguy Jan 2013 #49
Poor, poor you. Having people disagree with you is *such* a burden... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #58
All the time krispos42 Jan 2013 #43
As I gun owner, I pondered your link. MicaelS Jan 2013 #48
Non violent communication tama Jan 2013 #52
+100 G_j Jan 2013 #55
They're not advanced enough to understand that. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #54
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