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Rex

(65,616 posts)
112. Unbelievable.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:37 PM
Jan 2013

How did this thread go from talking about rape enablers...to bullies in school? Me thinks the tangent didn't work out that well since bullies in 99% of the cases DO face the music with school administrators.

The idea of NOT blaming the prime starter in any tragic event is a canard.

Tell me this the next time a kid Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #1
In that case it's a former victim who decides to make other people victims - usually LiberalLoner Jan 2013 #2
excuse me but Whisp Jan 2013 #3
You heard me. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #6
Who do you think forces rapists' hands? redqueen Jan 2013 #10
No one. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #15
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #58
+1 ellisonz Jan 2013 #70
Maybe you should watch your own language. October Jan 2013 #64
Are you posting this from the local pub? UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #94
DUzy! CrispyQ Jan 2013 #150
I must disagree with you on this picture issue. Bake Jan 2013 #139
yes, people get blamed for committing murder, Sorry that offends your sensibilities. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #53
Funny how they try and completely derail the thread from the getgo. Rex Jan 2013 #103
Nonsense, the bullies most certainly DO get blamed! Rex Jan 2013 #101
Read about Taft. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #105
Generally, people don't heap scorn on dead children at their funerals. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #106
Unbelievable. Rex Jan 2013 #112
Some people need to make everything about them and their agenda. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #119
Yes a handful of schools out of thousands and thousands Rex Jan 2013 #108
sorry. go out and fucking murder people because you were bullied and you lose your victim cali Jan 2013 #147
SO MUCH FAIL. redqueen Jan 2013 #4
So after telling their parents, the school teachers, the Principal and sometimes, even the police... RC Jan 2013 #36
SO not surprised to see you joining in with the derailment... redqueen Jan 2013 #41
My post was unisex. RC Jan 2013 #48
Ugh, first the rape apologists now the murder apologists. nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #57
Your use of the Jimmy Carter quote is ironic given your cheerleading of murder geek tragedy Jan 2013 #62
I am in no way cheering leading of murder. RC Jan 2013 #71
you refer to those MURDERS as "needed self-defense.' geek tragedy Jan 2013 #72
Because no one would come forward to help. They run out of options to stop the bullying, RC Jan 2013 #76
"self-defense" and "necessity" are excuses, not mitigating circumstances geek tragedy Jan 2013 #79
You are putting words in my mouth, I did not say RC Jan 2013 #89
This thread is about blaming rape victims for being raped. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #90
Are you seriously saying it's okay to spray people with gunfire Chorophyll Jan 2013 #110
No, they're saying that you shoud only blame the people who got shot. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #111
Oh, I get it. Stupid kids, parading around openly where *real* victims are trying to shoot. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #121
Where did you get that from? RC Jan 2013 #116
Where did I get that from? Chorophyll Jan 2013 #122
You are making up your own meanings to what I said. RC Jan 2013 #134
I merely quoted your own words back at you. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #144
Yeah and... RC Jan 2013 #145
You said it was "necessary" and "self-defense" geek tragedy Jan 2013 #126
What are your views on what we did to the people in Iraq and Afghanistan? RC Jan 2013 #157
and they deserve what they get after they make the decision to murder. fuck them. cali Jan 2013 #148
Bullshit. It's either self defense immediately after an attack or aggression bettyellen Jan 2013 #69
Disagreeing is not derailing of thread. RC Jan 2013 #73
You and Pab came in here on a discussion of blaming the victim of rape to complain geek tragedy Jan 2013 #75
And mansplained to the OP that she's doing it wrong because revenge murder is good! bettyellen Jan 2013 #81
Well, Pab also explained how Obama is like the KKK. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #82
My world is not black and white. RC Jan 2013 #83
Classic projection. The OP was about blaming rape victims and you and Pab geek tragedy Jan 2013 #85
A differing viewpoint is not projection. RC Jan 2013 #98
And their bullies are also victims. Murder victims. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #99
+1 LiberalLoner Jan 2013 #52
Victim blaming only ensures that MORE Columbines occur. EOTE Jan 2013 #5
The FBI didn't conclude the columbine shooting was a result of bullying/revenge. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #65
That does nothing to suggest that victims who get punished because of their plight won't lash out in EOTE Jan 2013 #158
You used Columbine as an example. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #159
I said "more Columbines" meaning that ignoring victims will create more tragedies like that one. EOTE Jan 2013 #160
Not all made up, but AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #163
I can't account for the FBI report, but again, they were bullied pretty viciously. EOTE Jan 2013 #164
I'll have to re-read through it. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #165
I'll trust my own eyes before I trust the FBI. EOTE Jan 2013 #166
This is a pretty huge strectch. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #154
Maybe it was more than that, but the bullying certainly was a good part of it. EOTE Jan 2013 #161
(((hug))) WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #7
There is no such thing as a "slut". redqueen Jan 2013 #8
"Slut-shaming" is an accurate term. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #11
Thanks for setting me straight, redqueen Jan 2013 #16
Song for you. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #18
My bad WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #12
Thanks, guy. redqueen Jan 2013 #20
I'm completely against slut shaming Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #9
I berated you? redqueen Jan 2013 #13
Not you. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #21
YOU WERE THE FIRST RESPONSE redqueen Jan 2013 #22
And the quote about "berating" Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #23
You derailed in post 1 redqueen Jan 2013 #25
Because I'm sick of people using broad terms when it suits them Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #26
As I said, the minute a victim picks up a gun and kills people redqueen Jan 2013 #27
the fact is if a rape victim shot her attacker dsc Jan 2013 #31
I would have a problem with it Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #33
A rape victim shooting her attacker DURING the attack. Sure. redqueen Jan 2013 #34
I'm sorry dsc Jan 2013 #37
On DU2, off topic subthreads were a no no redqueen Jan 2013 #45
no they weren't dsc Jan 2013 #49
Thank you for mansplaining to that little feminist who her ideas are silly geek tragedy Jan 2013 #96
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #100
Ironic that men show up to silence women geek tragedy Jan 2013 #109
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #113
Blah blah blah I'mtherealvictimhere blah blah blah. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #115
fine dsc Jan 2013 #118
So you don't believe all victim blaming is wrong Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #32
You arw making absolutely no sense. But thanks for completely derailing rhe thread... redqueen Jan 2013 #35
You are welcome, Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #50
It is funny. xocet Jan 2013 #66
You are talking about different things ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #43
In school shootings, the ones who are shot Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #46
yet here you are blaming the victims of shooting for being shot. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #61
Its really not that difficult. bunnies Jan 2013 #67
Nope. A victim who fights back Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #88
So the person who's dead isn't a victim. Gotta love murder apologist logic. nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #95
How long does one get to claim victim status... bunnies Jan 2013 #117
They're responsible for their own actions Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #120
"but their actions don't absolve their attackers of blame, either" bunnies Jan 2013 #123
A number of DU posters seemed to disagree with us Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #125
Its easy for me to have an opinion on this because... bunnies Jan 2013 #128
your apologist shit for murderers is sick, sick, sick. cali Jan 2013 #149
RedQueen's post came as a result of Tennessee trying to blame the victim of a rape for it CreekDog Jan 2013 #14
The context of this thread is immaterial. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #17
yeah, well the thread to discuss it is this one, but you are making sure it goes somewhere else CreekDog Jan 2013 #19
Yeah, you know what? redqueen Jan 2013 #24
definition of a sub-thread? snooper2 Jan 2013 #28
Do you know when the proper time to bring up a shooter being bullied is? Kalidurga Jan 2013 #29
When the bullying starts? Fumesucker Jan 2013 #40
Are you suggesting that Dylan Harris and Eric Kliebold should not have geek tragedy Jan 2013 #54
The victim still shouldn't be blamed for the bullying they endured. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #74
So when victim is a "he" - victim doesn't deserve to be blamed. When victim is a "she" - MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #84
Not at all. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #86
And no one is blaming the bullied kids for being bullied. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #87
Are you blaming the victims of school shootings? JVS Jan 2013 #97
I'm blaming the bullies Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #102
Do you blame Harris and Kliebold? nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #107
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #129
Something I have recently been made aware of... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #30
Thank you for replying TO THE TOPIC redqueen Jan 2013 #38
That was quite a threadjack. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #153
AND women who don't respond to public attention from men are also criticized. yardwork Jan 2013 #44
an hoot. nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #156
I rarely see straight men being blamed for crimes against them. yardwork Jan 2013 #39
I meant to reply to you earlier about that.... redqueen Jan 2013 #47
I haven't seen that. Please post if you can find the link. yardwork Jan 2013 #56
Here you go! redqueen Jan 2013 #60
Thank you! That's excellent! yardwork Jan 2013 #63
I have a good friend who used that 1975 article when teaching DURHAM D Jan 2013 #127
Gay people blamed for everything, including not being nice enough when saying 'hey you straights Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #114
Gay people's parents are usually straight. So are most of our siblings and children. yardwork Jan 2013 #124
Sometimes, women dress "provocatively" because they just want to look good. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #42
Yep! redqueen Jan 2013 #51
The argument that rapists rape because of the woman's appearance is bullshit. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #152
Good argument, in my opinion. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #55
Those who accept rape culture at some level accept rape. nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #59
yes. but, not only accept, but perpetuate the rape culture. and we have two very good OPs seabeyond Jan 2013 #92
aw shucks. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #93
Now this post I agree with completely. n/t ellisonz Jan 2013 #68
Good post. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #77
To all the "well intentioned" men who chime in with obvious "advice" for victims please STOP and bettyellen Jan 2013 #78
brilliantly said. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2013 #133
*aww shucks, thanks LLP* how's your thesis going? am very curious about it bettyellen Jan 2013 #136
This is exactly right. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #80
The only person to blame for a crime is the perpetrator. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #91
Kick and rec and Chorophyll Jan 2013 #104
It seems that women's issues can never, ever, ever be a priority... or even stand on their own. redqueen Jan 2013 #130
Because WOMEN aren't human equals to men in our patriarchal society.. left coaster Jan 2013 #131
And the MRA idiots always come out ranting about child support and other such shit. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #141
Yep, yep, yep, yep, and yep. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #143
Redqueen, I sent you a DU Mail asking if you think there's such a thing as virtual sexual assault. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #132
Maybe online sexual harassment? redqueen Jan 2013 #135
I've never really been a fan of the "virtual" prefix in that kind of context. Posteritatis Jan 2013 #137
This thread sure has lengthened my IGNORE list Blecht Jan 2013 #138
This subject always brings out the assholes and the clueless. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #142
K&R! Odin2005 Jan 2013 #140
No victim. No blame. n/t gulliver Jan 2013 #146
So ... we make rape legal? We somehow prevent all rapes? I don't understand. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #155
A world of difference between victim-blaming and encouraging women to make intelligent choices Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #151
NOBODY asks to be raped. Period. End of discussion. Taverner Jan 2013 #162
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