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Starboard Tack

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274. No, the entire issue is ridiculous.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:50 PM
Jan 2013

There is no way the girl/victim is an "accomplice" in the crime, even though she may consider herself a willing victim. The state has established a legal age of consent for carnal knowledge and laws have been enacted, classifying the adult male a rapist. The crime is his, and his alone. The girl bears no responsibility in terms of the crime and Collier's case is bogus IMO.

Any "blame" which may attach to the girl, is not blame for being a victim. She appears to have made some bad choices and hopefully will have learned from that. Whatever she might have done, though, does not excuse the crime, nor does it mitigate the crime in any way. Succumbing to temptation is not a defense.

Gun owners, OTOH, have a responsibility, and should be held accountable, to a degree, for their negligent actions that result in innocent lives being endangered or lost. True accountability in that area would change a lot of minds regarding gun ownership.

Far better we should teach her that her actions have no consequences. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #1
Wow. nt redqueen Jan 2013 #3
Jaw meet desk wryter2000 Jan 2013 #10
you want her prosecuted? holy crap, have you lost your marbles? CreekDog Jan 2013 #7
Of course not. Like I said in my post, her actions should not have consequences. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #15
what consequences? CreekDog Jan 2013 #23
No. She should NOT be punished in any way. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #30
why are you afraid to say what you think should happen to her? CreekDog Jan 2013 #45
I think NOTHING should happen to her. nt Speck Tater Jan 2013 #50
you aren't being honest about that CreekDog Jan 2013 #52
I'm simply taking a CONSISTENT position and defending her innocence. nt Speck Tater Jan 2013 #55
No, we aren't as stupid as you think we are --you're trying to make her victim status a strawman CreekDog Jan 2013 #67
Oh stop. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #56
My position: She should NOT be prosecuted. End of story. nt Speck Tater Jan 2013 #62
Then why do you keep adding that no 14 year old should Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #97
and the 42 year old man? No consequences either? bettyellen Jan 2013 #65
He is SCUM and should rot in jail forever. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #75
so wtf-> "Heaven forbid she should be held accountable for doing something incredibly irresponsible" bettyellen Jan 2013 #92
So you're gonna just triple down on the sarcasm... Iggo Jan 2013 #137
Bored now. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #146
You bored us a long time ago. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #148
Disgusted right now. And "god forbid" you have a clear POV because your bettyellen Jan 2013 #151
You lose. Iggo Jan 2013 #166
Your PPR was well deserved! hrmjustin Jan 2013 #207
Try practicing trolling a different site, maybe? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #215
I guess it didn't work. Iggo Jan 2013 #237
Logging off ... GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #258
Enjoy the PPR. alp227 Jan 2013 #341
Yeah. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #346
Pardon me for jumping in here, but I think you should stop and think notadmblnd Jan 2013 #235
A minor cannot legally choose to have sex. She lacks the mental capacity/maturity to consent. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #278
most six year olds will often go along with anything grownups they know suggest, so it's their fault bettyellen Jan 2013 #8
Not 6, 14. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #17
Digging your hole deeper and deeper, I see. MineralMan Jan 2013 #20
So you think she SHOULD be prosecuted? Speck Tater Jan 2013 #25
Speck, you are brilliant oldhippie Jan 2013 #109
That isn't wit. That is a sickening, desperate attempt to blame a CHILD for being raped. redqueen Jan 2013 #116
Oh, my. Where did he say that? oldhippie Jan 2013 #129
so you agree with him? CreekDog Jan 2013 #144
He has said over and over again ..... oldhippie Jan 2013 #233
he was arguing sarcastically CreekDog Jan 2013 #236
And apparently that is not allowed by .... oldhippie Jan 2013 #238
Thank you for making clear where you stand in the War on Women by kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #279
He's using sarcasm to suggest that the 14 year old girl is just as responsible in this situatiion as EOTE Jan 2013 #154
I see nothing in his posts to suggest that ..... oldhippie Jan 2013 #229
there is no double standard. we don't treat 14 year olds as legal adults because they are not. bettyellen Jan 2013 #290
That's really good to know, but ...... oldhippie Jan 2013 #294
there are all sorts of "enhancements" to penalties based on the nature of the crime. we have them bettyellen Jan 2013 #302
More making stuff up .... oldhippie Jan 2013 #317
no you just "high fives" a rape apologist troll and gleaned some deep wisdom from his posts. bettyellen Jan 2013 #319
Being raped isn't a crime! BainsBane Jan 2013 #339
I don't agree with those laws. antigone382 Jan 2013 #334
He's suggesting that the 14 year old needs to be punished for being raped. EOTE Jan 2013 #356
This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Jan 2013 #179
Brilliantly dead apparently: Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #214
no, you do CreekDog Jan 2013 #122
PPRd. Rex Jan 2013 #254
With a name like "Speck Tater" most likely some RWer "spectating" at us. alp227 Jan 2013 #342
WTF with "do or say anything whatever" treestar Jan 2013 #327
Rope my friend, he just kept grabbing for more rope Rex Jan 2013 #253
how is one "accountable" for being raped? BainsBane Jan 2013 #39
speck is saying sarisataka Jan 2013 #44
this is some twisted stuff BainsBane Jan 2013 #46
I'm saying she DOES NOT know better. You got my position backwards. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #47
You are a misogynist troll. Fuck off. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #57
My position: She should NOT be prosecuted. Do you disgree? nt Speck Tater Jan 2013 #66
I recognize a really lame attempt to engage in a satirical reductio ad aburdem geek tragedy Jan 2013 #69
If you are going to be disingenuous, at least try and make it clever instead... Spazito Jan 2013 #58
Seriously, people should be required to obtain a license to employ sarcasm. EOTE Jan 2013 #158
Yep, it is a very sickening sight... Spazito Jan 2013 #164
Really... sarisataka Jan 2013 #63
She was the VICTIM and SHOULD NOT be prosecuted. I don't know how to make it clearer. nt Speck Tater Jan 2013 #68
And you include sarisataka Jan 2013 #82
Nothing, of course. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #90
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #95
Let's clear up something... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #194
Well, that's about as clear as it can be. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #195
Got awfully quiet in here (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #314
Why is ^^^^ THIS being hidden? EOTE Jan 2013 #182
No shit. Dr. Strange Jan 2013 #200
What a travesty. Science Geek Jan 2013 #245
Just so you know, the user was PPRed, he's gone now. EOTE Jan 2013 #357
And I think you are NOT a horrendous asshole. EOTE Jan 2013 #126
^^This^^ HangOnKids Jan 2013 #136
nobody believes you, because your first post in this thread makes clear what you believe: CreekDog Jan 2013 #127
If your gun is stolen , should you be .... oldhippie Jan 2013 #111
What is your point? BainsBane Jan 2013 #131
Point made oldhippie Jan 2013 #145
Absolutism and black-and-white thinking is a RW trait. Again, thank you for letting all of us kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #281
Why, you're quite welcome .... oldhippie Jan 2013 #300
If you are thinking that being a rape apologist's water carrier is going to earn you kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #301
Yes! Absolutely! Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #259
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #261
We should never blame them for being victims. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #263
Thank you oldhippie Jan 2013 #264
We can blame them for their irresponsibility, not their victimhood. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #269
"We can blame them for their irresponsibility, not their victimhood." oldhippie Jan 2013 #271
No, the entire issue is ridiculous. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #274
I understand your position ....... oldhippie Jan 2013 #275
no, a child can give no consent, they have no culpability here. bettyellen Jan 2013 #292
Thank you! BainsBane Jan 2013 #338
that you think there is anything equivalent between BainsBane Jan 2013 #337
So you think that as a child ages, they should become LESS accountable for their actions? EOTE Jan 2013 #175
Uh, not just no. Hell no! MineralMan Jan 2013 #14
Are you disagreeing with me and saying she SHOULD be prosecuted? Speck Tater Jan 2013 #19
Of course she should not be prosecuted. MineralMan Jan 2013 #21
Then we are in COMPLETE agreement. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #27
I won't play. It's a stupid game. MineralMan Jan 2013 #32
My position: She should NOT be prosecuted. Your position? nt Speck Tater Jan 2013 #59
Your idiotic and dishonest equation of crimes committed BY the teenager geek tragedy Jan 2013 #81
kids that age HAVE been prosecuted for texting naked pictures. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #106
Life isn't consistent. Tien1985 Jan 2013 #155
What you are doing is obvious to most. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #170
We appear to be in agreement that rape victims should not be prosecuted for being rape victims. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #283
........... Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #16
Isn't apologizing for rape a bannable offense on DU? white_wolf Jan 2013 #22
Tha man is SCUM and should be thrown in jail. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #38
Derp. Of course 14 year olds need to be held accountable. EOTE Jan 2013 #162
What crime do you think she might be getting away with? Just curious. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #284
Not when it was Roman Polanski. Dr. Strange Jan 2013 #48
You should get a million dollar prize for that one MattBaggins Jan 2013 #358
I'm not convinced a 14-year-old person can consent to sex. ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #37
You're right. Any more than she could consent to shoplifting or Speck Tater Jan 2013 #43
you're comparing this to her willfully shoplifting? CreekDog Jan 2013 #49
Willful sex? willful shoplifting? How can anything be willful at 14? Speck Tater Jan 2013 #53
Your reductio ad absurdem attack on statutory rape laws is disgusting. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #64
She was the VICTIM and SHOULD NOT be prosecuted. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #72
Because we recognize heavy-handed sarcasm. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #73
He's not a pig. He's a pig fucker. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #285
you posted a repugnant opinion and you know it, which is why you won't say it outright CreekDog Jan 2013 #71
Last time: She is an innocent victim and should go free. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #86
what the 42 year old did was her choice? CreekDog Jan 2013 #89
The man is SCUM, the girl is a VICTIM. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #94
because you compared her to a car thief and a shoplifter CreekDog Jan 2013 #110
Simply repeating the same thing over and over again does not, in fact, make it any more believable.. LanternWaste Jan 2013 #192
For the love of god, why are you saying that this 14 year old girl 'chose' Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #198
Lets turn it around. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #178
14-year-olds can be taken advantage of others gollygee Jan 2013 #79
+ 5 brazillion kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #286
Did your kids really fuck you up or something? I say that really hoping you Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #91
5 Grandchildren in their 20's Speck Tater Jan 2013 #118
I guess we'll have to take your word for it. Was there a restraining order? I'm Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #128
If that scum had taken advantage of MY granddaughters when they were 14 Speck Tater Jan 2013 #138
No. Stop derailing. Go start a "Things 14 year olds should be punished for" thread if you want. redqueen Jan 2013 #147
Bullshit, you were trying to be cute by bringing up shoplifting and joy riding. The article is Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #149
You contradict yourself Oilwellian Jan 2013 #223
I am betting that our friend has been accused, and possibly convicted, of kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #287
I don't think sex compares to drinking booze or stealing shit. ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #101
So give me a list of which poor choices SHOULD be punished. And why. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #123
Do you mean punished by parents or punished by government? ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #134
in the old days of America azureblue Jan 2013 #196
I know, but I don't think that contradicts my post in anyway. ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #206
What? dbackjon Jan 2013 #60
She is innocent and should not be prosecuted. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #78
Heaven forbid that she might have been LYING about consenting.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #77
She is a CHILD Marrah_G Jan 2013 #80
Eaxctly! She should NOT be held accountable. We agree then. nt Speck Tater Jan 2013 #115
Oh please that is NOT what you started off saying Marrah_G Jan 2013 #276
WTF obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #102
you would much rather teach a fuckin' 42 yr old his actions have no consequence and point finger seabeyond Jan 2013 #103
Holy crap! EOTE Jan 2013 #117
Oh, and just so you know, I totally think you are NOT a disgusting piece of crap. EOTE Jan 2013 #120
Hey! I said she is an INNOCENT VICTIM and the man is SCUM that needs to rot in jail. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #130
And I just said that you are NOT a disgusting, worthless piece of rape apologising filth. EOTE Jan 2013 #133
I like totally agree with you. That poster is NOT defending pedophilia, or insinuating that 14yo idwiyo Jan 2013 #140
How did I manage to wander onto a freeper site? I was sure this was DU. pnwmom Jan 2013 #125
Fourteen years old... ljm2002 Jan 2013 #157
You can go directly to hell. Romulus Quirinus Jan 2013 #167
You. Have. Got. To. Be. Joking. daleanime Jan 2013 #168
What specifically leads you to that conclusion? LanternWaste Jan 2013 #186
Good riddance to you. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #197
THIS STATE IS PART OF THE SOUTH ROBROX Jan 2013 #199
What's with the South bashing? NealK Jan 2013 #220
Stuff like this never happens in any other state, right?..... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #303
This poster has been PPRed by the Admins. MineralMan Jan 2013 #204
If ever a post called for it... daleanime Jan 2013 #212
Are you fucking kidding me? Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2013 #210
I may have my first post hidden in over 8 years etherealtruth Jan 2013 #224
I had some fun beating this horse long after he died. I figure the mods kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #288
This has to be one of the most disturbing sub threads I've ever seen. Initech Jan 2013 #277
Edit Dash87 Jan 2013 #333
The girl no doubt needs help, but let's not slut-shame. alp227 Jan 2013 #340
So many missed the point nobody_special Jan 2013 #344
Lotta words, signifying not a lot Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #347
"The dearly departed tater, and you (the newborn spud??)" JustJoe Jan 2013 #350
spot on with the newborn spud retort SC bench scientist Jan 2013 #354
On the other side, we charge 14 year old kids with murder in adult courts. Should one appleannie1 Jan 2013 #2
I am stunned. redqueen Jan 2013 #4
On this subject, many DU'ers cannot pick a lane. How many times have so many DU'ers suggested that KittyWampus Jan 2013 #34
i think it's very different between teens than it is between adults and teens, and most laws bettyellen Jan 2013 #54
It's the age that makes me ill. Guy's age implies he's close to a pedophile IMO. And the power thing KittyWampus Jan 2013 #61
scary to think they are hanging this on "she called" ..... bettyellen Jan 2013 #87
Gee Kitty Oilwellian Jan 2013 #228
"They need to be protected by law." I agree completely Number23 Jan 2013 #260
and we can't get juries to hide these posts CreekDog Jan 2013 #105
It is so far past time to limit the jury pool... redqueen Jan 2013 #124
Look at how many times the apologists have served on juries here. n/t Oilwellian Jan 2013 #234
I was on that jury Control-Z Jan 2013 #135
Murder = having sex wryter2000 Jan 2013 #13
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #28
initiated it? by making a phone call. OMG, she probably also wore a skirt. the dirty whore! bettyellen Jan 2013 #42
Goodness. MineralMan Jan 2013 #18
some seven or eight year olds "know full well" what sex is, and might even "flirt*" with adults bettyellen Jan 2013 #36
What cave did you people crawl out of? nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #76
OMG how many people like this are here gollygee Jan 2013 #84
multiple juries won't hide the worst posts in this thread CreekDog Jan 2013 #99
Ever watch "To Catch a Predator?" geek tragedy Jan 2013 #174
Perhaps if we stopped posting on this thread OldHippieChick Jan 2013 #180
the OP has done nothing wrong but post an article that is documenting some disturbing news CreekDog Jan 2013 #188
"whine"? Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #189
WTFingF?! redqueen Jan 2013 #232
I'm hoping that it was a mistake gollygee Jan 2013 #250
No real mistake, but I must have been too liberal OldHippieChick Jan 2013 #335
Oh FFS NealK Jan 2013 #113
She is 14 years old! How can a 14 year old consent to something like this. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #119
Please stay away from children. They are not consenting when you think they are. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #187
I'll ask you as well, appleannie Oilwellian Jan 2013 #230
A minor cannot legally choose to have sex. She lacks the mental capacity/maturity to consent. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #289
Wait - isn't the premise of the statutory rape charge that a minor cannot consent? yellowcanine Jan 2013 #5
WHOA!!WHOA!! WHOA!! Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #11
+1! uponit7771 Jan 2013 #205
Yes leftstreet Jan 2013 #12
I think they will try and decide whether a minor can consent. white_wolf Jan 2013 #26
If they say the minor can consent it is no longer rape unless the minor said no. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #35
It sounds like one of those old archaic laws passed a 100 years ago... white_wolf Jan 2013 #41
It IS one of those old archaic laws passed 100 years ago. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #291
Guilty of consenting to what she is unable to consent. Festivito Jan 2013 #348
Nothing has changed Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #6
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #251
Fear is the starting point then turns to hate Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #272
It looks like this case will rest on two issues. white_wolf Jan 2013 #9
What a wonky law temporary311 Jan 2013 #24
Amazing sarisataka Jan 2013 #29
There are some seriously sick posts in this thread. NealK Jan 2013 #31
Yeah, some of them should be bannable posts IMO. n/t white_wolf Jan 2013 #33
completely agree BainsBane Jan 2013 #107
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #40
So knowledge is sufficient sarisataka Jan 2013 #51
A 42 y.o. man knows a hell of a lot more about exploiting power differentials, manipulation and demmiblue Jan 2013 #108
with mentalities like posts on this thread, it is no wonder that we live in a rape culture and still seabeyond Jan 2013 #141
On a positive note though, Sissyk Jan 2013 #216
I do NOT understand why that poster is still here. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #252
This thread is an embarrassment. demmiblue Jan 2013 #70
and jury after jury is upholding the worst posts here CreekDog Jan 2013 #74
This one didn't: UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #121
I am stunned Marrah_G Jan 2013 #83
I was afraid to come back to it... redqueen Jan 2013 #112
To the jerkoff polluting this thread with their garbage. Fuck off. You're not being clever. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #85
Correction: jerkoffs (plural). There are at least two. nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author Xithras Jan 2013 #93
it's not the same BainsBane Jan 2013 #96
Teenagers can't consent to sex? dairydog91 Jan 2013 #139
He wasn't an teenager BainsBane Jan 2013 #143
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #159
Go back to your cave. Suggesting that a child should be held culpable geek tragedy Jan 2013 #163
This message was self-deleted by its author Xithras Jan 2013 #176
being raped isn't a crime! BainsBane Jan 2013 #183
So many here just don't get that. And that tells us all we need to know about them. Squinch Jan 2013 #257
Speaking of lack of logic... NealK Jan 2013 #193
Minors can not consent to sex with an adult. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #240
Do you think this girl should be held responsible? hrmjustin Jan 2013 #247
Logic fail. A better comparison would be if she were robbed. Should she be charged with that? uppityperson Jan 2013 #265
Ugh. nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #150
Not to a 42-year-old man obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #156
you have been on 4 juries CreekDog Jan 2013 #161
not with people much older than them, no. It varies, but the penalties are harsher when the age bettyellen Jan 2013 #165
if you can't see the difference between a medical procedure BainsBane Jan 2013 #172
This message was self-deleted by its author Xithras Jan 2013 #152
I'm not saying either BainsBane Jan 2013 #153
Were adults involved in this other situation? If not, that's a big difference. randome Jan 2013 #169
The point about the Tennessee statutory rape charge is that it's less severe than a rape charge muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #191
This involves a 42 year old man. It is rape, End of discussion amongst reasonable people. nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #100
One of the sickest things I've read recently rickjliberal1946sef Jan 2013 #98
And we have people fighting on the wrong side in this thread. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #104
This post was alerted on! Tick Tock! Update! The jury voted 6/0 to let the post stand. ohiosmith Jan 2013 #132
This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Jan 2013 #266
Thanks CJ. Didn't realize! ohiosmith Jan 2013 #267
This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Jan 2013 #270
This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Jan 2013 #268
How can you possibly know this???? kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #295
Check his profile. CJCRANE Jan 2013 #349
Are you psychic?? There is no way to know that one troll is the kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #353
How bad is something that even Death Threat Guy finds it repellent? REP Jan 2013 #273
This is totally disgusting! hrmjustin Jan 2013 #114
The American Taliban at work. Initech Jan 2013 #142
This is one sad thread. Solly Mack Jan 2013 #160
There had to be some kind Tien1985 Jan 2013 #181
Is it projection? procon Jan 2013 #171
my thoughts exactly nt BainsBane Jan 2013 #185
This message was self-deleted by its author Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #173
if you read the thread BainsBane Jan 2013 #184
You are only ok with that because you have internalized the values of the rape culture we live in. redqueen Jan 2013 #190
WTF?! I've internalized the values of rape culture? Am I also HITLER? Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #225
Not all 14 year olds are the same. That's a very broad brush you are using. randome Jan 2013 #218
I agree, and that is not what I believe Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #226
The national discussion has already decided 18, 16 for some states. randome Jan 2013 #246
Age of consent is only one aspect of sexual development Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #248
It's an age of consent that society has already spoken on. randome Jan 2013 #249
How clear do I have to be? I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH YOU! Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #262
Knowing about sex doesn't mean a 14 year old cannot be coerced by an adult to consent to sex. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #222
What a disappointment to see you write that Oilwellian Jan 2013 #239
I do have a daughter actually, and obviously what I wrote came across wrong Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #242
That sounds very much like what NAMBLA wants, too. randome Jan 2013 #244
Knowing "what sex is" does not equal enough knowledge Zoeisright Jan 2013 #255
So, I've got one question for those defending the grown up and further victimizing the CHILD justiceischeap Jan 2013 #177
+1 NealK Jan 2013 #211
The man should take full responsibility libodem Jan 2013 #213
Tennessee needs to protect this child not prosecute her. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #201
If this... deathrind Jan 2013 #202
Sexual activity by a minor is not a crime (by that minor). THAT'S WHY. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #299
SURE there isn't a war on women right now.... Taverner Jan 2013 #203
Being a Tennessean, I want to both puke & cry at the same time. southerncrone Jan 2013 #208
A lot of idiots everywhere.... daleanime Jan 2013 #217
The court is allowing this appeal to finally review and overturn this outdated law. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #227
I'm not holding my breath. southerncrone Jan 2013 #355
State v. Collier Go Vols Jan 2013 #209
Interesting...so the rapist was a multiple offender n/t Oilwellian Jan 2013 #241
The way I read it Go Vols Jan 2013 #243
Dafuq? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #219
Whatever they can do to revictimize the victim get the red out Jan 2013 #221
Ain't Tennessee great? jmowreader Jan 2013 #231
Reminds me of the disgust I felt at the Roman Polanski defenders. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #256
She should not be prosecuted, ridiculous. The idea that she's a victim is absurd LittleBlue Jan 2013 #280
WTF? Where are you people coming from? CreekDog Jan 2013 #282
From a place where no normal people reside. demmiblue Jan 2013 #297
Let's just say under rocks are not as crowded as it used to be. nt Deep13 Jan 2013 #306
So if a 14 yr old CHILD calls you for sex you'd do it? Have sex with her? nt justiceischeap Jan 2013 #293
Nope! That's about being a responsible adult LittleBlue Jan 2013 #309
so you'd be fine with your 60 year old boss fucking your 13 yr old child? Is 12 okay too? bettyellen Jan 2013 #311
You do realize that a minor cannot legally give consent, right? justiceischeap Jan 2013 #315
In this country, yes LittleBlue Jan 2013 #316
15 yr old force to marry 70 yr old. girl forced to marry rapist. ya, other countries does a lot of seabeyond Jan 2013 #321
Japan is more modern than we are LittleBlue Jan 2013 #322
that would be why once a woman has a baby the husband doesnt want sex anymore or seabeyond Jan 2013 #323
Fortunately, for our girl children, we live in the USA justiceischeap Jan 2013 #324
In some Chinese villages, they practiced cannibalism during the Revolution. I guess that makes Squinch Jan 2013 #326
it would be men with the "atta boy" shit. just like it is the men blaming this girl. seabeyond Jan 2013 #320
Alerted, though the jury failed on this one CreekDog Jan 2013 #296
"She wanted sex, she called a guy and got it" obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #298
By that logic, I should be cruising the jr. high schools for dates. Deep13 Jan 2013 #305
You are a rape apologist. And a moral idiot. Go ahead, alert on me. nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #307
Agreed. 14? Really? Jesus Christ! nt Deep13 Jan 2013 #310
I've no interest in alerting LittleBlue Jan 2013 #312
your opinion that it's okay for a 42 year old to have sex with a 14 year old? CreekDog Jan 2013 #328
Where did I say that? LittleBlue Jan 2013 #330
you called it a "victimless crime", you said Japan it wouldn't be illegal and that... CreekDog Jan 2013 #331
My quote LittleBlue Jan 2013 #332
so, are you arguing that there's no victim, but it still should be a crime? and that you disagree bettyellen Jan 2013 #336
You are way out of line. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #308
What you're saying is truly puke inducing. NealK Jan 2013 #313
Ugh. That is absolutely disgusting. She is a child, he is 42. She is a victim. Squinch Jan 2013 #325
Oh shit! Iggo Jan 2013 #352
That's a good way to deter reporting of sex offenses. Deep13 Jan 2013 #304
I think it is premature to criticise the court since they didn't rule dsc Jan 2013 #318
OH FFS!!!!!! Warpy Jan 2013 #329
To all the people who are blaming the GIRL DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #343
The whole point is that a 14-yr.-old cannot consent. Deep13 Jan 2013 #351
Sadly, I'm not quite optimistic about this. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #345
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