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12. I am against this policy
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:23 AM
Feb 2013

It's a secret inside of a secret inside of a secret. We used to have a policy of not killing foreign leaders (a public policy anyway, wink wink), and now we are making a policy to kill Americans, abroad or here in the USA. And we (Americans) just have to 'TRUST' our government that they are doing the right thing, i.e. actually going after a REAL terrorist. There's no oversight. It looks unconstitutional and maybe impeachable. In the Bush Adm they created a law to allow them to go around the Geneva Conventions and torture to Chenies sadistic heart's desire. Now we're going around the law to use these drones to kill supposed terrorists, be it an American or not, here or over there. Of course, Bush Adm wasn't held accountable, so I guess PO (or Bush leftovers in POs administration, i.e. Brennen who's up for confirmation for the CIA post) think they are above the law too. I don't know about anyone else, but I think it's time to come to halt on going around the law. They gave Hagel hell, but Brennen is the one that should not be confirmed. (Brennen is the granddaddy of these drones, isn't he?)

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." ~~Voltaiare, 1694-1778

Ron Wyden, liberal democratic Oregon is saying he is FOR DRONES graham4anything Feb 2013 #1
Black or White? davidpdx Feb 2013 #6
Yes, I am for it. Ron and I are on the same side. We are for it. graham4anything Feb 2013 #10
This is his point Ichingcarpenter Feb 2013 #11
after the fact. Not preannounced before the fact. graham4anything Feb 2013 #13
The President's argument is only valid if no mistakes are made. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #22
Truman dropped a bomb. Were all those people guilty? graham4anything Feb 2013 #24
I think there's a difference... HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #25
The cold war is dead.that is so 1980s. This is 2013. No borders, new enemies. graham4anything Feb 2013 #26
No he is not. Coyotl Feb 2013 #18
This is going to be key: ProSense Feb 2013 #2
Exactly. What's so difficult about that Cha Feb 2013 #23
I personally would like to back it up a bit, ronnie. If say, russia declared that it's at war with HiPointDem Feb 2013 #3
+a million n/t Catherina Feb 2013 #4
Civilized countries like the US and Russia would resolve it without unilateral action... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #7
'these joke countries'? that comment and the attitude behind it is the problem. they're a HiPointDem Feb 2013 #9
My thoughts Ichingcarpenter Feb 2013 #5
This is how evil begins-subtley, reasonably. bubbayugga Feb 2013 #8
Burning infidels at the stack was all very exactingly regulated by a set of laws, slavery too Coyotl Feb 2013 #17
I am against this policy ReRe Feb 2013 #12
How many disappeared are there? Coyotl Feb 2013 #19
Wyden and Udall tried warning us about USA PATRIOT Act secret laws and COULDN'T. Octafish Feb 2013 #14
Yeah and the Patriot Act Ichingcarpenter Feb 2013 #16
To be accused is to be convicted Ichingcarpenter Feb 2013 #20
Then exploded. Octafish Feb 2013 #21
"Every American has the right to know when their government believes that it is allowed to kill them Coyotl Feb 2013 #15
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