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Recursion

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39. No, but I also am at worst ambivalent about drone strikes against Americans in arms against the US
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:15 PM
Feb 2013

I'm ambivalent about both but I also recognize deadly force is sometimes required. It's probably used too often in both cases.

I think if he would have surrendered peacefully, or at least released his hostage, Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #1
He did. It was over in a flash. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #2
Superman was busy diverting an asteroid at the time. randome Feb 2013 #3
Is this an oblique reference to the extra-judicial killings of Americans cali Feb 2013 #4
Yes, I'm trying to figure out what are the distinctions jberryhill Feb 2013 #13
In these cases, the threat was not even "imminent," but immediate. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #29
Jimmy Lee Dykes was suspected of kidnapping and murder. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #5
oh, good lord yes! This whole story gives me chlls of horror...I can only imagine CTyankee Feb 2013 #6
I heard on the noon news that HappyMe Feb 2013 #9
I think they had gone as far as they could go with him and had a strong inkling that he CTyankee Feb 2013 #12
Isn't probable cause the basis for the killing of suspected terrorists? randome Feb 2013 #10
Someone actively involved in a crime Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #26
We are invited into those countries by their governments. randome Feb 2013 #40
That is not necessarily true. Pakistan did not invite us. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #42
I believe Pakistan furnished information about OBL's location. On the sly, as it were. randome Feb 2013 #44
Pakistani Ambassador to the U.S., Sherry Rehman denies your "secret" agrremnt. Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #47
So if this is true, why isn't the government of Pakistan saying it? Why an ambassador? randome Feb 2013 #51
From April of 2012 Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #56
The drone stuff jberryhill Feb 2013 #14
Drones are defined by rules of engagement in an active war. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #66
And Al-Awlaki? jberryhill Feb 2013 #20
Al-Awlaki wasn't a target of law enforcement... Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #31
I believe your concerns are shared jberryhill Feb 2013 #50
You can't surrender to a drone. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #57
I meant prior to it reaching that point jberryhill Feb 2013 #61
People on the battlefield are not surpised that they are targets. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #63
What I'm wondering jberryhill Feb 2013 #67
Do you have any proof for that other than the fact that the government said so? Recursion Feb 2013 #27
There were witnesses from the bus. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #35
It's a bit naive to say SWAT tactics are used to "arrest" people, IMO Recursion Feb 2013 #36
If police were not allowed to defend themselves within the law... Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #38
No, but I also am at worst ambivalent about drone strikes against Americans in arms against the US Recursion Feb 2013 #39
DU rec... SidDithers Feb 2013 #7
He didn't want a trial slackmaster Feb 2013 #8
Well, we don't know what he wanted, now do we? jberryhill Feb 2013 #16
At the point that they had to go in and rescued the child the man did not deserve a trial madokie Feb 2013 #11
Everyone who can be apprehended deserves a trial jberryhill Feb 2013 #17
i agree madokie Feb 2013 #24
Ever heard of "Suicide by Cop"? 2naSalit Feb 2013 #34
I disagree. He deserved a trial. It was his right. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #41
True that madokie Feb 2013 #46
maybe he wasn't American? Whisp Feb 2013 #15
I'm not trying to make a point jberryhill Feb 2013 #18
If the Jimmies plotting against americans in some far off land Whisp Feb 2013 #37
Obama ordered him whacked so he wouldn't talk Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #19
I don't like the sarcasm smilie jberryhill Feb 2013 #22
Done Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #23
People like Jimmy Lee Dykes are their own judge, jury, and executioner... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #21
Agreed. n/t RebelOne Feb 2013 #43
Let's play The False Equivalency Game: DU Edition NightWatcher Feb 2013 #25
Really? Nothing at all? Recursion Feb 2013 #28
Dykes was a true "imminent" threat. Al-Awaki's teenage kid, not so much. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #30
I agree with you except for Bonnie and Clyde. MicaelS Feb 2013 #32
according to the movie that is madokie Feb 2013 #33
Drones were used during the standoff of Jimmy Lee Dykes. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #45
Uh, because he was engaged in an ongoing crime? ljm2002 Feb 2013 #48
Planning and execution is a good distinction jberryhill Feb 2013 #49
You are right it is seldom black and white... ljm2002 Feb 2013 #52
Oh, I think the finer points do matter jberryhill Feb 2013 #54
This is not a good analogy, IMO cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #53
It wasn't intended as a good analogy jberryhill Feb 2013 #55
I don't know that WDOA exists today cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #58
Because he really did pose an imminent threat to the child as well as to the police. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #59
How do these principles apply in the context of suspected terrorist activities and drone strikes? jberryhill Feb 2013 #69
He chose trial by firing squad. Myrina Feb 2013 #60
As was Isoroku Yamamoto. LanternWaste Feb 2013 #62
Huh? Zoeisright Feb 2013 #64
Ah, thank you for your insight jberryhill Feb 2013 #68
What about Urg? RZM Feb 2013 #65
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