I'd be willing to listen to it (Reply #91)

In the discussion thread: If President Obama goes to war with Iran, would you be open to listening to the case for it? [View all]

Response to BrentWil (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2012, 11:38 AM

Proud Liberal Dem (20,683 posts)

91. I'd be willing to listen to it

if he were inclined to actually for whatever reason suggest war with Iran and hear what his rationale is for it. Thankfully, I don't believe he is interested in doing so now or in the future. The only people really pushing for war are (surprise, surprise) the same damned people whom told us repeatedly that it was essential to invade/occupy Iraq to eliminate WMDs and that picking up the pieces from the invasion and leaving would be simple. Thankfully, Obama simply doesn't belong to their cabal nor interested in membership therein. The only reason that I would ever actually support going to war with Iran or anybody else would be if they actually initiated an attack on us and/or one of our allies (i.e. Israel). Building nuclear weapons (which is unquestionably questionable in the case of Iran) is NOT (or should not be) prima facie justification for going to war with ANY country IMHO.

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121 replies	Author	Time	Post
If President Obama goes to war with Iran, would you be open to listening to the case for it? [View all]	BrentWil	Jan 2012	OP
Non-starter.	northoftheborder	Jan 2012	#1
Not just NO, but hell NO.n/t	CaliforniaPeggy	Jan 2012	#2
If President Obama rapes a goat on the White House lawn...	TheWraith	Jan 2012	#3
indeed. you beat me too it. though i hadn't thought of the goat thing. nt nt	arely staircase	Jan 2012	#8
Do you have proof the act was not consensual? nt	jody	Jan 2012	#15
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the possible	PurityOfEssence	Jan 2012	#102
A staffer testing the waters?	wakemewhenitsover	Jan 2012	#22
Given Obama's intervention in Libya and his expansion of the war in Afghanistan...	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2012	#27
Given your distortion of the facts, I would rule out your opinion as being very valid.	TheWraith	Jan 2012	#40
My distortion of facts?	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2012	#51
"...a handful of airstrikes on a dying regime..."	Neue Regel	Jan 2012	#64
and yours is a poor attempt	fascisthunter	Jan 2012	#92
Talk about distortion!	PurityOfEssence	Jan 2012	#103
Yeah, thats why I asked. I think war is possible whoever is elected in 2012	BrentWil	Jan 2012	#75
And his most ardent fans would support it.	PurityOfEssence	Jan 2012	#100
"Plook?" Joe's Garage, right? n/t	dogknob	Jan 2012	#101
Yes	PurityOfEssence	Jan 2012	#111
+1	JoePhilly	Jan 2012	#88
A more nuanced and more likely question would be " If Israel or Iran strike the other,	morningfog	Jan 2012	#119
Always. They know far more than we do. I probably wouldn't agree and would	gateley	Jan 2012	#4
DU has been claiming imminent war with iran for 6 years running. it isn't going to happen.	dionysus	Jan 2012	#5
+1 n/t	tammywammy	Jan 2012	#12
There is nothing wrong with being proactively antiwar in this day and age	think	Jan 2012	#23
"nothing wrong with being proactively antiwar"! That's the ONLY moral position . nt	jody	Jan 2012	#29
being anti-war and crying wolf about war are two seperate things.	dionysus	Jan 2012	#50
The best wars never happen. When Seymour Hersh	think	Jan 2012	#66
What about a preemptive war based on the truth? Possible? NT	BrentWil	Jan 2012	#77
Possible but unlikely. More likely another Gulf of Tonkin incident:	think	Jan 2012	#82
Closer to 8 now, actually.	TheWraith	Jan 2012	#24
The neocons have been trying to invade Iran for forty years. It remains a strong possibility.	BlueIris	Jan 2012	#45
i understand that. but here we used to have Sy Hersch saying all the time that he had the inside	dionysus	Jan 2012	#47
Not so sure	BrentWil	Jan 2012	#76
I wouldn't be happy, I'd be suspicious,	Ilsa	Jan 2012	#6
Only if he and his wife lead the assault troops. nt	jody	Jan 2012	#7
No.	Starry Messenger	Jan 2012	#9
Nope. The excuse would be bullshit and dry ice.	Bonobo	Jan 2012	#10
I would always be open to hear his logic, but it would be absolutely insane no matter what	teddy51	Jan 2012	#11
H... NO!!!! That is all.	nanabugg	Jan 2012	#13
No more unilateral Bush Doctrines in the ME.	Old and In the Way	Jan 2012	#14
pfffftttt...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2012	#16
No, and that includes if Iran does something that seems fishy	quinnox	Jan 2012	#17
No.	NCTraveler	Jan 2012	#18
I guess I would have to. Seeing as I would be deployed.	Muskypundit	Jan 2012	#19
Of course I'd listen to the case for it. I may not agree, ....	Lil Missy	Jan 2012	#20
I tend to agree	BrentWil	Jan 2012	#78
No. Absolutely not.	PDJane	Jan 2012	#21
The President doesn't have the authority to go to war	The Second Stone	Jan 2012	#25
No, no, no, a thousand times no! I am sick of war!!! n/t	RebelOne	Jan 2012	#26
Yes, I'm willing to listen.	PragmaticLiberal	Jan 2012	#28
Only if he has his cowboy boots on and Colin Powell to back him up and flags..lots of flags.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jan 2012	#30
Are you a republican? nt	Zorra	Jan 2012	#31
No	bigwillq	Jan 2012	#32
I'd listen of course, that's a key to our democracy.	boxman15	Jan 2012	#33
I am open to LISTENING to any case for something. But unless Iran attacks us....	Honeycombe8	Jan 2012	#34
How would Iran attack us?	rusty fender	Jan 2012	#110
Gee, I don't know. Those sill Taliban didn't have much, eithr. Gee, I just can't guess. nt	Honeycombe8	Jan 2012	#112
The Taliban never attcked the US on our soil.	morningfog	Jan 2012	#116
Oh HELL NO	MichiganVote	Jan 2012	#35
The whole Iran thing smells bad, like something we've been through before ... it would take	RKP5637	Jan 2012	#36
If I was bored, I might listen.	ZombieHorde	Jan 2012	#37
he`s not going to go to war with iran	madrchsod	Jan 2012	#38
Iran would have to directly attack Houston, TX before I'm interested in discussing your "war". nt	TBF	Jan 2012	#39
Not a fucking chance	superpatriotman	Jan 2012	#41
Insane question. NO. MORE. WAR.	BlueIris	Jan 2012	#42
Nope.	toddwv	Jan 2012	#43
Fuck no.	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2012	#44
Fucks to the No.	Iggo	Jan 2012	#46
No....we've had enough corporate war for a while, give it a rest....n/t	unkachuck	Jan 2012	#48
Non starter without a direct attack.	Hatchling	Jan 2012	#49
No. nt	bemildred	Jan 2012	#52
Sure	raouldukelives	Jan 2012	#53
you mean a good reason like Iraq has the capacity to hit the US within so many minutes?	newspeak	Jan 2012	#114
That's why we only fight poor people whose land has resources	raouldukelives	Jan 2012	#120
I would be willing to listen to the case	rudycantfail	Jan 2012	#54
need critical thinking here	riverwalker	Jan 2012	#55
I disagree...	BrentWil	Jan 2012	#79
remember Nada?	riverwalker	Jan 2012	#56
Iran is extremely unique...	BrentWil	Jan 2012	#80
Nope. Next question.	mmonk	Jan 2012	#57
No	fujiyama	Jan 2012	#58
I think it would rival Hitler's invasion of the USSR in its insanity. Exactly how	coalition_unwilling	Jan 2012	#63
would we maintain supply lines for our forces?	BrentWil	Jan 2012	#81
it would break my heart and I would fear for the future	Douglas Carpenter	Jan 2012	#59
There is no such thing as a righteous case for war that needs explaining.	Bluenorthwest	Jan 2012	#60
In what venue? An Impeachment hearing? The Hague? (nt)	T S Justly	Jan 2012	#61
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tiggeroshii	Jan 2012	#62
Pshaww.... If President Obama wants to go to war with Iran, it's in our best interest.	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2012	#65
Sure, I'll listen.	MrSlayer	Jan 2012	#67
He needs to make a case before he starts any war. n/t	isuphighyeah	Jan 2012	#68
Not only is there no case for it--it would be one of the stupidest acts in Am. history	Lydia Leftcoast	Jan 2012	#69
War is relative	metalbot	Jan 2012	#70
Would Iran close off the Straits of Hormuz if	Lydia Leftcoast	Jan 2012	#71
Nukes are not useful as a deterrent against the US (or Israel) without second-strike capability	Hippo_Tron	Jan 2012	#85
Do you know WHY they might do that? Iran is being threatened with deadly sanctions	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#74
No, not at all	slay	Jan 2012	#72
No, there is about the same reason for a war with Iran as there was for the Iraq War.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#73
NO (nt)	Tumbulu	Jan 2012	#83
If Iran invades another country, then yes	Hippo_Tron	Jan 2012	#84
+1 Very logical response. I like your outlook and hope you are correct.	think	Jan 2012	#86
Does He Have A Casus Belli?	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2012	#87
NO!	sarcasmo	Jan 2012	#89
No. n/t	area51	Jan 2012	#90
I'd be willing to listen to it	Proud Liberal Dem	Jan 2012	#91
no!	fascisthunter	Jan 2012	#93
Unless Cheney and Bush Sr make him do a false flag?	Rosa Luxemburg	Jan 2012	#94
We are not "going to war" with Iran.	DCBob	Jan 2012	#95
President Obama is not and I repeat is not going to got to war with Iran	madokie	Jan 2012	#96
I don't know - I am a firm believer that overstretch is what brings empires down. I also will say	jwirr	Jan 2012	#97
I guess I should answer...	BrentWil	Jan 2012	#98
If? He won't. Period.	Rex	Jan 2012	#99
no.	barbtries	Jan 2012	#104
No - I Am Tired Of War And The Excuses For War!	cantbeserious	Jan 2012	#105
Not no but hell no! Alot will depend on how Obama is doing in the lead up to election in November.	Citizen Worker	Jan 2012	#106
An embargo is an act of war. So technically, we're already in war with Iran.	Galle	Jan 2012	#107
I don't think it's our place to question our leaders.	Bucky	Jan 2012	#108
No. I'm tired of death and destruction	unapatriciated	Jan 2012	#109
Non starter. nt	pecwae	Jan 2012	#113
Non Starter	mdmc	Jan 2012	#115
I agree, but then the question becomes what qualifies as an Iranian attack.	morningfog	Jan 2012	#117
non starter	mdmc	Jan 2012	#121
Iran is no threat..	sendero	Jan 2012	#118

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