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HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
17. for the time being. but soon to become otherwise. a trojan horse for education deform is what it is,
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:29 AM
Feb 2013

ultimately.

as well as another step into the universal surveillance state.


The new industry of large-scale online education will garner an important measure of academic respectability Thursday when the American Council on Education announces that four courses of the Mountain View, Calif.-based Coursera organization are worthy of college credit — if anti-cheating measures are enforced.

It is now up to colleges and universities to decide whether to allow their students to replace traditional courses taught in classrooms with low-cost online courses that enroll many thousands of students worldwide and involve little direct interaction with instructors.

Dean Florez, a former California state senator who is president of the Twenty Million Minds Foundation, an organization that seeks to widen access to online learning, described the move as a huge step in national higher education. He said he hoped that it will encourage state colleges and universities in California and elsewhere to move more quickly into online education, especially for entry-level courses that are now so overcrowded that students have trouble enrolling in them, delaying graduation.

It is usually free to take a course through Coursera and other similar groups, including Udacity and edX. However, Coursera charges students $30 to $99 for a completion certificate for a class taken under surveillance monitoring that includes individualistic typing patterns to prove a student's identity. For an additional $60 to $90, a student will be eligible for the ACE credit by taking final exams proctored through webcams. A portion of those fees will go to schools such as UC Irvine that created the classes.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/07/local/la-me-0207-online-credit-20130207



Free College Courses Online! [View all] Sherman A1 Feb 2013 OP
Thank you!!!! renate Feb 2013 #1
Wow, this is very interesting. Thanks. RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #2
K & R Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #3
'non-credit' another salvo in the war to destroy public universities.... HiPointDem Feb 2013 #4
While I understand your point of view Sherman A1 Feb 2013 #5
that's not what this is about, though. these courses *will* be offered for credit, and it looks HiPointDem Feb 2013 #6
i'm not sure i understand what you are saying JI7 Feb 2013 #20
No, I am saying that these classes are going to be offered for credit at a price, and that colleges HiPointDem Feb 2013 #27
+1 Knowledge should always be available and free. Live and Learn Feb 2013 #15
Perhaps it just gives people who can't go to Stanford, Melbourne or London U SwissTony Feb 2013 #7
uh, yeah, that's what they say. but the capitalists play a long game, and the public is too naive HiPointDem Feb 2013 #8
aren't these Free Classes ? JI7 Feb 2013 #13
for the time being. but soon to become otherwise. a trojan horse for education deform is what it is, HiPointDem Feb 2013 #17
You too can play long game. Educate yourself for free & that is worth more than any piece of paper Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #14
I have educated myself all my life, and I didn't need some loss leader from education deformers HiPointDem Feb 2013 #16
Ah, you have chosen "angry". Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #21
to correctly identify your previous post, and this latest one, as both condscending and diversionary HiPointDem Feb 2013 #24
Not a personal attack. I was characterizing your post as "angry". No need to be so defensive. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #39
i'm not defensive at all. you wrote "ah, *you* have chosen angry." your words. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #46
You can't win, or rather, one can't win or maybe I can't win. When I wrote "you" Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #47
So you would tell a hungry begger to not take the sandwich because he would rhett o rick Feb 2013 #53
the hungry beggar being -- what? people who want to take free online courses? yeah, that's HiPointDem Feb 2013 #61
I agree Sherman A1 Feb 2013 #10
you may not see it that way, but that's what it is. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #18
"but the end game will be quite different" I'm from Missouri. TalkingDog Feb 2013 #36
lol. another resort to personal attack. right out of the playbook. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #37
Then we must agree to disagree Sherman A1 Feb 2013 #49
so people shouldn't learn unless they go to a university ? JI7 Feb 2013 #12
your post is ironic, considering you're pumping 'free' university classes. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #19
but unless one is working towards a degree why does the credit part matter ? JI7 Feb 2013 #22
it wouldn't matter if this were actually some 'free' recordings of university lectures. but that's HiPointDem Feb 2013 #25
How dare people get access to free college courses! EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #23
it's not the professors getting most of that cash, but the textbook corporations. the ones who HiPointDem Feb 2013 #26
Losing battle you're fighting here. a la izquierda Feb 2013 #29
Informing people is never a losing battle. Those who don't get it mainly don't wish to get it. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #30
No, you're absolutely right. a la izquierda Feb 2013 #32
do you think most people want a privatized education system? i don't. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #38
No I don't think people want a privatized education system. a la izquierda Feb 2013 #40
but that didn't use to be the attitude. that attitude i attribute to two things; relentless HiPointDem Feb 2013 #41
Spot on. a la izquierda Feb 2013 #44
i think the banksters, the lack of real recovery and the assault on things like social security HiPointDem Feb 2013 #45
I took a greek mythology class this year from them Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #43
Oh get a clue. a la izquierda Feb 2013 #28
Nonsense. Free online college courses have been available for years. nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #48
Much like Napster was a threat to record companies? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #54
those who profit from it are the for-profit corporations pushing education deform. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #59
Yes, the medieval model of the university is an ox that will probably be gored in the next decades Recursion Feb 2013 #56
don't kid yourself. the university will survive; there will just be fewer of them, and mostly HiPointDem Feb 2013 #60
I'm doing the Health for All course right now, along with a film course and intro to philosophy Bolo Boffin Feb 2013 #9
where is the ancient greek history link ? do they have other history classes ? JI7 Feb 2013 #52
Here's the link: Bolo Boffin Feb 2013 #63
Bookmarked. Thanks. Jim__ Feb 2013 #11
Noticed they didn't offer languges AsahinaKimi Feb 2013 #31
Check out post #34.... Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #35
All of FSI's language courses are free online Recursion Feb 2013 #57
also many many available free on iTunesU ZRT2209 Feb 2013 #33
There is also the "Open Courseware Consortium", where you can take classes from MIT... Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #34
I took a greek mythology class there this past year. Great fun! Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #42
i wish they would include some literature and history classes JI7 Feb 2013 #50
kick Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #51
MIT has had almost all of its courses online for free for years Recursion Feb 2013 #55
That is awesome. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #58
Cool, thanks nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #62
Thanks, K&R sfpcjock Feb 2013 #64
It's great! user_name Feb 2013 #65
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