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sendero

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50. I heard that also..
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:34 AM
Feb 2013

... when I was in a selling business working with customers - a dude in the Army stopped by (he was probably 40 or so, a lifer) and after discussing product for a while we got on the subject of the war. He was not strongly against it but seemed to think on balance it was a mistake. Then he said (paraphrasing) "we've been preparing for this war since Bush took office".

I'll withhold my harsh opinion of anyone who 1) didn't see this was a snow job or 2) thought the war was a good idea anyway.

"We"weren't fooled. DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #1
You're so right brush Feb 2013 #55
The REAL "know-nothings" accused "us" of being a bunch of ignorant, naive "know-nothings" Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2013 #67
I thought for sure there would be Animal Chin Feb 2013 #2
Read a chain of lies on WMD Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #7
We know that NOW, but I didn't know that then. gateley Feb 2013 #28
Not to be too critical of you personally.. sendero Feb 2013 #45
Not taking it personally, but thanks for the clarification anyway. :) gateley Feb 2013 #73
i know a lot of people in the same boat. and people have blindspots- you see a lot of bettyellen Feb 2013 #76
One would think by the time one gets here, they've passed that point, gateley Feb 2013 #79
you would at least assume they are open minded and willing to learn. bettyellen Feb 2013 #81
I did, too. I wasn't really into politics at the time and though I hated Bush, et al, gateley Feb 2013 #27
Most progressives and libs were not fooled think Feb 2013 #3
Not me. I'm only surprised the whole region didn't melt down worse than it has TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #4
"The American People" Trajan Feb 2013 #5
Snow job by the media walking hand in hand w Bush. We weren't fooled by that emulatorloo Feb 2013 #6
And there are many of us who weren't fooled by 9/11 either. n/t JohnyCanuck Feb 2013 #8
Exactly.. sendero Feb 2013 #46
What I've always suspected The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2013 #9
The retribution against the camps Jack Sprat Feb 2013 #17
Pretty close.. sendero Feb 2013 #47
August 2003 - 70% of Americans still believed that Saddam Hussein was personally involved in 9/11 Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #10
Yes, OP thinks that everyone must believe the same things that the OP does. stevenleser Feb 2013 #11
already-existing plans to take out iraq, libya, syria, etc say otherwise HiPointDem Feb 2013 #39
That has nothing to do with my points. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #56
sure it does. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #85
at least 80% of the people I know have never heard of PNAC. even now. it's sad. bettyellen Feb 2013 #92
Yawn.. sendero Feb 2013 #48
Yawn - Virtually the entire world thought that Iraq likely had WMD. You can pretend that this wasnt stevenleser Feb 2013 #58
"Virtually the entire world" ... REALLY??!!! Martin Eden Feb 2013 #98
The US had, has, and will continue to have WMD - If that justifies an invasion we're fucked. Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #53
I said nothing about justifying an invasion or anything else that you wrote. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #57
I didn't say you did. Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #59
According to the various UN Resolutions, it would have in Iraq's case. However... stevenleser Feb 2013 #65
I think the point is that many of us accepted the Official Story because we wanted a war. Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #80
There are some who wanted that, yes. That doesnt explain the rest of the world believing WMD were in stevenleser Feb 2013 #83
Bush told the inspectors to get out of Iraq so he could bomb it DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2013 #88
Depending on your timeline, I might agree with you. stevenleser Feb 2013 #90
Sure, and USAToday posted that finding after election 2000 that Bush* won Samantha Feb 2013 #30
I certainly don't believe Bush was involved in any way with September 11 - That strikes me as the Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #34
I have no idea... sendero Feb 2013 #49
I did not say that he was involved Samantha Feb 2013 #68
I think you mean the NY Times. They are the ones who printed that misleading article whose headline stevenleser Feb 2013 #61
Both the NY Times and USA Today were involved in participating in studying the recount Samantha Feb 2013 #69
That is exactly what they reported because I remember reading the details Samantha Feb 2013 #70
Here it is. I think this NY Times article is the one to which you are referring stevenleser Feb 2013 #64
As you can see from the date, that was issued late in 2001 Samantha Feb 2013 #72
Interesting thesis daleo Feb 2013 #12
I think that is because the realization was a slow one. The UN Weapons inspector reports of 3/7/03 stevenleser Feb 2013 #13
Also, there wasn't a draftee army, as during Viet nam daleo Feb 2013 #15
But it isn't a real democracy anymore. Jack Sprat Feb 2013 #14
I objected, they didn't care. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #16
I agree with you. I remember my astonishment after Powell's speech to the UN. Squinch Feb 2013 #18
It certainly had been planned. In Paul O'Neill's THE PRICE OF LOYALTY, he says that raccoon Feb 2013 #44
I heard that also.. sendero Feb 2013 #50
Excellent book and I believe that incident happened at the first cabinet meeting Samantha Feb 2013 #96
Readers of Forbes weren't fooled... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #19
The List of Democrats who were NOT "fooled", bvar22 Feb 2013 #20
Yep. And, not a few "liberal" Democrats jumped on the "Bring it on" bandwagon to another dumb war. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #21
Hans Blix Ron Obvious Feb 2013 #22
I hope Ms. Maddow lists those Democrats that claimed to be "fooled" starting with Tom Dashiell. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #23
Perspective from Wilton Sekzer (clip from "Why We Fight") Kennah Feb 2013 #24
I was just thinking about that clip as I was reading the OP. . . markpkessinger Feb 2013 #35
I believe I was watching the extra scenes Kennah Feb 2013 #40
I guess you forgot how the American people marched in record breaking protests. joshcryer Feb 2013 #25
And the first of those was in OCTOBER of 2001 in D.C. & San Francisco. patrice Feb 2013 #31
150 US cities had protests Feb 15 2003. joshcryer Feb 2013 #33
I remember watching the polls from here. Studying each and every one of them. patrice Feb 2013 #36
I was out protesting and then I got really sick so I was in the hospital after it started up.... WCGreen Feb 2013 #26
Most people with a brain were not fooled quinnox Feb 2013 #29
The polls were MSM fueled idiocy. joshcryer Feb 2013 #32
I wasn't fooled. It was all plainly bullshit The Second Stone Feb 2013 #37
I thought it was about even money that there would be some chemical weapons dsc Feb 2013 #38
"We" as in the American people? Were fooled into it Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #41
Yes, large swaths of the American people were fooled; but what about members of Congress? Martin Eden Feb 2013 #97
Those who had a lot of time to pay attention to the news weren't fooled, JDPriestly Feb 2013 #42
the problem is that the use of the aggregate "we" is tricky cali Feb 2013 #43
as you wish cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #74
gad. touchy. cali Feb 2013 #91
You nailed this square on the head madokie Feb 2013 #51
Bush conflated Al Qaeda with the Palestinians who are bombing Israel &that's why his lie worked Kolesar Feb 2013 #52
enough people were fooled by the ones that wanted war no matter what. KG Feb 2013 #54
90% supported Bush at one time. kentuck Feb 2013 #60
Those who weren't fooled were just powerless to stop it. shcrane71 Feb 2013 #62
We, the people didn't have any say in the matter Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2013 #63
++ Excellent. It' a bully's rationalization. The agreed lie. DirkGently Feb 2013 #66
We were LIED and BULLIED into it by the media, and those who stood annabanana Feb 2013 #71
Well said (nt) Recursion Feb 2013 #75
The last time I checked, mass murderers were sent to prison when caught. KansDem Feb 2013 #77
It was fairly obvious to me that our military knew there were no WMD, Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #78
Correct and that is because on March 7th, 13 days beforehand, we knew for sure from the Reports of stevenleser Feb 2013 #84
I'll most definitely buy into that logic, Steve. Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #89
"We were duped" sure beats taking responsibility for the deaths of 100s of thousands of people. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #82
Many ignorant idiot patriots did. L0oniX Feb 2013 #86
"in order to feel good about their desire for senseless murder on television" Martin Eden Feb 2013 #87
Message auto-removed marwa saf Feb 2013 #93
Welcome to DU. nt sibelian Feb 2013 #95
I was not fooled at all. I knew that SOB, and all his minions were lying. n/t RebelOne Feb 2013 #94
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