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calimary

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26. Well, from what I read, he WASN'T duped. Remember those articles about him calling bullshit?
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:49 PM
Feb 2013

The night before or the day before he was supposed to go to the UN, he got pissed off and didn't want to do it, said it was bullshit, and made a stink, and said "I'm not gonna read that!"

Buuuuuuuuutttt - sure enough, the next day, there he is, at the UN, spouting all these lies so convincingly. Even my husband, who had tremendous respect for the guy, was one of many who said - "well... if colin powell says so, then I guess it must be true." At the time I remember seeing reports about cheney telling powell to do it because powell could afford to lose a few points in his public opinion ratings.

INFURIATING!!!!! And I'm sorry. If powell knew it was bullshit, and said so, and complained and balked, AND THEN CAVED, then he's as guilty as the rest of 'em. He could have said no. He could have refused. He could have - and SHOULD have - resigned. That would have gotten people's attention and MAYBE caused enough of the public to have second thoughts that we could have forestalled the damn war.

He's just as guilty. He was uniquely positioned to be able to mount a meaningful objection, using that clout that cheney looked at, hungrily, and decided deliberately and ruthlessly to exploit. colin powell should be held FULLY responsible and accountable, and if it means a war crimes tribunal for him, too, then so be it. He could have stopped this. He could have avoided this messy position he's in now. He had it in the palm of his hand. And he threw it away in order to get in bed with fucking Lucifer.

You are correct. His speech at the UN was little short of a war crime, and the CIA was complicit. 1-Old-Man Feb 2013 #1
Share? He convinced a portion of the world with cartoons at the UN. He shares a giant portion. Javaman Feb 2013 #2
I wish he really did confess his duplicity and apologize for being a ... Walk away Feb 2013 #4
He is the poster boy for lying us into Iraq! Walk away Feb 2013 #3
Iraq war,.... Mnpaul Feb 2013 #22
Yes, I have hated him for decades. He's scum!.. Walk away Feb 2013 #39
This is what happens when you only look forward Mnpaul Feb 2013 #41
He is a good man but should have stood up for what was right Franker65 Feb 2013 #5
Sorry, but a good man would never have done what he did. He's another war criminal, imho. nt Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #7
+1 redqueen Feb 2013 #14
+ 1000 SomeGuyInEagan Feb 2013 #18
Agree completely, he could have put a kibbutz on the whole thing, yet he chose not to and shall be Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #24
That's "ki-BOSH'". "Kibbutz" is an Israeli commune. There's also a yiddish marybourg Feb 2013 #28
A good man would have resigned his office. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2013 #23
He should spend the rest of his life in prison, but since that won't happen he should be publicly Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #25
I cannot believe there are so many apologists here defending him. The man is intelligent, he would Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #47
how can a good man do what he did? Whisp Feb 2013 #33
Especially considering what he said in Feb., 2001 polly7 Feb 2013 #6
Hell yes he does samplegirl Feb 2013 #8
Powell was complicit. But he alone has admitted he was wrong & expressed regret. DirkGently Feb 2013 #9
I had no idea that Powell "admitted he was wrong & expressed regret". jamesatemple Feb 2013 #12
He's told Barbara Walters his U.N. testimony was a "blot on his record." DirkGently Feb 2013 #44
Thank you very kindly for providing that information. jamesatemple Feb 2013 #45
It was Powell who claimed Saddam had manufactured the anthrax OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #10
Dr. Bruce Ivins was the fall guy (I think) Botany Feb 2013 #13
Definitely. OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #38
Never forget this moment Botany Feb 2013 #11
He knew. See polly7's - post #6. nt Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #48
I agree with you. Raffi Ella Feb 2013 #15
I think Powell John2 Feb 2013 #17
Well, from what I read, he WASN'T duped. Remember those articles about him calling bullshit? calimary Feb 2013 #26
He was complicit in war crimes! rdharma Feb 2013 #40
I cut him no slack whatsoever. Utterly complicit. Never understood the "great man" thing. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2013 #16
I think people cut him slack not because of anything Powell did Johonny Feb 2013 #19
Powell is just like the rest of them (Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld, etc.) Solly Mack Feb 2013 #20
Why people trusted him to begin with... ljm2002 Feb 2013 #21
My Lai coverup rdharma Feb 2013 #27
I totally agree... FiggyJay Feb 2013 #29
You may be young, but many of us remember My Lai. He 'seemed' trustworthy/caring is the key word. Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #49
His hands are filthy dirty. Will never forget his disgusting dog'n'pony show at the UN. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #30
agreed La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2013 #31
He is definitely part of that cabal. William769 Feb 2013 #32
I know this post will probably be unpopular in this thread, but in attempt to.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #34
The materials Powell presented to the UN were patently fraudulent PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #35
Another Texan Agrees dem in texas Feb 2013 #36
That show at the UN wasn't for them. It was for the American Media.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #37
Conspiracy to commit war is treason and he conspired to commit war just1voice Feb 2013 #42
I hold in my hand, this vial, which contains enough Capt. Obvious Feb 2013 #43
i remember those days as i am sure most of you do..... dembotoz Feb 2013 #46
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