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pampango

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54. "They despised nationalism, racism, and Sophie herself was even something of an early feminist."
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:57 AM
Feb 2013

Far-right parties today still rely on "nationalism, racism" and misogyny. Some things never change.

The Scholls' actions were "truly awe-inspiring, incredibly brave during an incredibly dark time". "...an end in terror is preferable to terror without end." is a worthwhile reminder that dictatorships, then and now, rely on 'terror' for their continued survival. That 'terror' may be in the form of arrest, torture and execution (largely invisible if you live outside the country) rather than in the form of exploding bombs, falling buildings, etc., but it is 'terror' by any definition.

Thank you for the detailed post and all of the excerpts from the six pamphlets. "Freiheit!"

There is a pretty good movie about this CBGLuthier Feb 2013 #1
Film was nominated for Oscar in 2005 OldEurope Feb 2013 #3
i have looked at this on netflix for ages barbtries Feb 2013 #5
Great movie adieu Feb 2013 #22
Just watched it. It is a fantastic movie. Highly recommended. Thanks for the other suggestions. n/t pampango Feb 2013 #31
Then I'm not the only one tblue Feb 2013 #48
It was an excellent film. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #34
Thanks. I requested this from our library. n/t pampango Feb 2013 #6
Thank you for posting this... In Wisconsin freedom of speech has to be negotiated. midnight Feb 2013 #7
What do you mean about Wisconsin? YarnAddict Feb 2013 #19
Walker's Absurd Rule Restricting Free Speech in Capitol midnight Feb 2013 #60
I saw the movie too BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #27
Completely agree. geardaddy Feb 2013 #29
The film is being shown again on German national TV tonight. DFW Feb 2013 #51
Hans Scholl, Sophie Scholl, and Christian Probst. Brickbat Feb 2013 #2
Real heros defacto7 Feb 2013 #44
Some of the Occupy people maybe. tblue Feb 2013 #49
i could only aspire to such courage. barbtries Feb 2013 #4
Another young man from the White Rose, OldEurope Feb 2013 #8
Sophie Scholl's last words to judge Roland Kreisler, the "hanging judge" were: Mira Feb 2013 #9
Wow!! So much is in your relating of the events back then. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #17
Your post made me wonder what became of Freisler at the end of the war. xocet Feb 2013 #35
All of this makes me sigh very deeply Mira Feb 2013 #42
Yes, it is sad that these events happened. xocet Feb 2013 #43
Another example The Wizard Feb 2013 #10
Thank you for posting this Smll_Ax3 Feb 2013 #11
To many were. OldEurope Feb 2013 #20
Many were. Read tblue37 Feb 2013 #23
Hey Cuz!!!! tblue Feb 2013 #50
Hi, Cuz! Long time no see! nt tblue37 Feb 2013 #59
Many were leftynyc Feb 2013 #28
Sounds like you were there Smll_Ax3 Feb 2013 #56
Many were. Basically the same sort of people who comprise the Republican base today. Marr Feb 2013 #32
Kick! Heidi Feb 2013 #12
Remarkable heros kairos12 Feb 2013 #13
So Young & So Brave... FiggyJay Feb 2013 #14
In many ways we need to see this same type of courage in our elected leaders today. Pakid Feb 2013 #15
there's footage on Youtube of Judge Roland Freiser. He's well portrayed in the Sophie Scholl film Voice for Peace Feb 2013 #16
Unfortunately, adieu Feb 2013 #24
Gotta lot a NAZIs around here still. And we ALL need to call them out for what they are. Octafish Feb 2013 #18
That Group of tea baggers at McCains town hall? busterbrown Feb 2013 #26
There are some great pics at this site, a lot of history of the White Rose. madfloridian Feb 2013 #21
Twenty-two years old? another_liberal Feb 2013 #39
True heroes! Hulk Feb 2013 #25
Execution 4 days after their arrest. "Justice" certainly was swift under the Nazis rgbecker Feb 2013 #30
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #33
such brave heroes, inspiring nt steve2470 Feb 2013 #36
Thank you, pampango, this story of courage in the face of insanity must live forever. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #37
Sophie had a fresh cast on one leg . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #38
Thank you so much thucythucy Feb 2013 #40
"They despised nationalism, racism, and Sophie herself was even something of an early feminist." pampango Feb 2013 #54
Damn. blackspade Feb 2013 #41
. struggle4progress Feb 2013 #45
I know them well, but didn't know the day. tblue Feb 2013 #46
Ugly question, worth asking... nikto Feb 2013 #47
The film is shown more often here in Germany than back home in Texas. DFW Feb 2013 #52
Almost everyone who stood up to Hitler died JPZenger Feb 2013 #53
Very sad. But the brave who have done so must be admired and remembered. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #55
"Weapons of the Spirit" is another incredible film thucythucy Feb 2013 #57
One of my college French professors was from Le Chambon Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #61
Awe inspiring courage senseandsensibility Feb 2013 #58
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