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(86,276 posts)Glad you're here. That's something I fear, too.
EVEN IF the republi-CON who'd win would probably talk all nice and mellow about not flexing America's muscles and how we can't afford more wars like this - you just watch.
If that horrendous turn of fate were to happen, we'd have to watch ALL THE PEOPLE THAT republi-CON WOULD BRING INTO THE WHITE HOUSE WITH HIM. Who'd be advising him? Who'd be whispering in his ear at Camp David or after hours or at some of those fancy dinners? Who'd be on his National Security team? How many chickenhawks? It'd be a frickin' PARADE of chickenhawks all hot for war to prove how macho they are (since, after all, they couldn't be bothered to go to actual war when they were younger and had the chance, and now, in their dotage, they've still got chips on their shoulders that need to be exercised).
Just plain 'n' simple, the GOP needs to be kept OUT of the White House. Just think - if john mccain lives long enough - how many times HE would be in there as a "respected" elder statesman/advisor, and HE would be the one whispering in the GOP president's ear about going to war. At their last CONvention last August, remember how many wars he ticked off - Yemen, Syria, Iran, back to Iraq, beef up Afghanistan - I counted at least FIVE.
PLEASE, NOBODY FORGET:::::::: In the PNAC manifesto, they earnestly believed and pushed their KEY idea of the U.S. being able "to fight and decisively win multiple wars on multiple fronts." That was a HUGE part of it. Their absolutely idiotic, unrealistic, and utterly imaginary but still fervent belief that the United States is this invincible all-war-all-the-time machine, or should be. That's all they wanted. That's all they STILL want. They're not finished.
Believe me. They are NOT finished, NOR do they feel defeated. They are NOT finished. They are NOT willing to admit their ideas were wrong, impractical, unrealistic, untenable, or ridiculously impossible. THEY still think we're up to it, as some sort or warrior-nation. And I guarantee you, they WILL be back. Especially if they think they still have scores to settle, like mccain does, or all those fucking assholes who think we didn't finish the job in Iraq and need to go back in there and "show 'em who's boss!"
PLEASE DON'T FORGET THIS!!!! NOT EVER!!!!!
One other thing is key here, too::::: FEW IF ANY of the PNAC signatories ever fought. They NEVER saw combat. NEVER put their lives and/or limbs on the line for their country. CERTAINLY NEVER volunteered to put themselves in harm's way for their country. NEVER even wore their country's uniform (except for rumsfeld, who served during the time BETWEEN the Korean and Vietnam aggressions - but he never saw combat, either). Whether it was dick cheney, jebbie bush, frank gaffney, bill kristol, randy scheunemann, robert kagan, elliott abrams, ken adelman, or ANY of the rest of those bastards, NONE of them were military or war veterans. NONE of them knew anything about what war actually is - beyond what they saw on TV or heard about during high-level briefings while comfortably ensconced in their expensive padded leather conference room chairs. NOT ONE. But they sure knew how to saber-rattle, and NOBODY had bigger hard-ons for war.
It's probably the single biggest reason NEVER to vote for republi-CONS for national office - OR high state office. No matter how nice they seem or how mellow and reasonable and educated and grounded-in-reality they seem to be. NEVER. One of these assholes could be president some day, or vice president. And it's a mistake we CANNOT afford to make, as a nation, ever ever EVER again!!!!
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