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Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
130. You know perfectly well what was meant...
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:46 AM
Feb 2013

and your passive-aggressive "lacking in compassion" remark fools nobody.

Big K&R LiberalLoner Feb 2013 #1
Can I take exception to the word 'privileged'? sadbear Feb 2013 #2
Agreed Lordquinton Feb 2013 #9
I think we know what the OP meant Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #12
Not being able to argue better than everyone else is not the same as being wrong. merrily Feb 2013 #54
Such a simple concept duhneece Feb 2013 #125
Well, the OP claimed no "status as victim" intaglio Feb 2013 #105
In other words... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #133
Did you write this word salad? intaglio Feb 2013 #177
I can't help you... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #190
You do not even write at an fifth grade level intaglio Feb 2013 #200
BAM. Well done. bettyellen Feb 2013 #222
About your points about grammar: you're wrong muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #234
Technically correct, it's just that the subject, the "I", is indeterminate intaglio Feb 2013 #254
it's completely clear and in fact you understood it: HiPointDem Feb 2013 #261
I actually disagree strongly with Jeff's position muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #266
In discussions downthread, I think the OP and I are probably pretty close in our opinion Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #270
You know how to tell when you're losing an argument? Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #248
The subject is still undefined intaglio Feb 2013 #255
Listen up, class Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #267
wtf? massive fail on the writing analysis. the poster writes just fine, and the sentence has HiPointDem Feb 2013 #259
As observed in my response to Muriel intaglio Feb 2013 #260
It's completely clear that the poster was paraphrasing your argument (sarcastically), and that HiPointDem Feb 2013 #263
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #221
Suggestion: Keep trying. LanternWaste Feb 2013 #276
Lack of privilege confers privilege. Please get with the program. snagglepuss Feb 2013 #195
So asking for some objectivity Tsiyu Feb 2013 #206
Can you give an example of what you are talking about because I have no idea from Maraya1969 Feb 2013 #126
You know perfectly well what was meant... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #130
I actually was thinking you had another idea besides hating on the poor or the transgendered Maraya1969 Feb 2013 #131
Nailed. First try. Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #136
You obviously did not read the article. That makes sense. But don't try to blame your Maraya1969 Feb 2013 #150
I actually obviously DID read the article... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #163
Context or perspective is really hte issue, not whether or not one's position iemitsu Feb 2013 #145
this mac56 Feb 2013 #156
I understood the OP in the struggle context, as well. ancianita Feb 2013 #189
I meant it exactly in that relative sense. Matariki Feb 2013 #13
I think everyone should listen.... MellowDem Feb 2013 #14
Actual discussions about sexism or racism in our culture Matariki Feb 2013 #16
I agree those are never prefereable... MellowDem Feb 2013 #19
Good post... one_voice Feb 2013 #48
I would say that actual discussions about sexism and racism hfojvt Feb 2013 #64
Straight people should not lecture GLBTQ people on being overly geek tragedy Feb 2013 #66
why not? hfojvt Feb 2013 #83
... Number23 Feb 2013 #108
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Feb 2013 #120
Love. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #238
No, "incorrect" does not = "overly senstitive." bread_and_roses Feb 2013 #123
So did you lecture him about the error of his ways? If not, you are proving the point. Squinch Feb 2013 #134
See, that should have been a learning lesson for you. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #139
to learn what? hfojvt Feb 2013 #171
But, you don't know what life experience he has. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #154
of course, I do not know his experiences hfojvt Feb 2013 #169
Just because a perception is incorrect doesn't make it irrational though. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #174
not sure why rationality needs to come into it hfojvt Feb 2013 #201
But, to use the example you cited, he's not imagining anything. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #202
yes, let's compare being black with being iron deficient! bettyellen Feb 2013 #224
Talking over people can happen in conversation, but not on a message board. merrily Feb 2013 #53
Here's my frustration... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #146
If it had been just one person, I might agree with you gollygee Feb 2013 #147
My point is this... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #172
Well, attempting to be satirical doesn't give him a free pass gollygee Feb 2013 #181
Again, my point... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #186
OK. Again, my point . . . gollygee Feb 2013 #204
OK... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #249
it was such a poor attempt at satire it was indisinguishable from frat boy "humor" bettyellen Feb 2013 #225
Imho, Ted is a stupid movie. That is all. n/t Fla Dem Feb 2013 #149
It might well be... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #164
No, that's ok. Everyone has their unique taste in movies. I saw "ted" in the theater because... Fla Dem Feb 2013 #175
Now, you see... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #188
Best post I've read in weeks rjj621 Feb 2013 #161
I'm not sure what privilege has to do with it Major Nikon Feb 2013 #253
" It's a way to exclude someone who you think has it better than you" Better? Absolutely not. merrily Feb 2013 #52
??? I think you misunderstood or misrepresented dreamnightwind Feb 2013 #87
I read his post too quickly. Wish you had left it at "misunderstood" though. merrily Feb 2013 #90
It looked like an unlikely mistake, that's all dreamnightwind Feb 2013 #119
Message auto-removed matwilson Feb 2013 #3
thank you! cally Feb 2013 #4
thank you. Matariki Feb 2013 #7
You seem to have something Jenoch Feb 2013 #57
I'm not baffled by it at all. sibelian Feb 2013 #100
Or maybe your situation is different, tavalon Feb 2013 #137
It's called "Argument from Authority" Lordquinton Feb 2013 #187
That's exactly how I see it. sibelian Feb 2013 #262
Yeah, that! tavalon Feb 2013 #132
I note that you did not say this, but I am curious: Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #205
You make so much sense. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #278
"It is what I say it is" Confusious Feb 2013 #5
Perfectly stated. cate94 Feb 2013 #6
Amen! Texasgal Feb 2013 #8
K&R Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #10
K&R Squinch Feb 2013 #11
And remember texshelters Feb 2013 #15
Excellent post. dawg Feb 2013 #17
Describe 'privileged' cliffordu Feb 2013 #18
I'll pretend your question isn't disingenuous and answer it. Matariki Feb 2013 #20
You mean like the privilege that demands cliffordu Feb 2013 #26
It's not your job though. galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #32
Nice. cliffordu Feb 2013 #40
yes, please... stop all this white knighting bullshit for everyone's sake bettyellen Feb 2013 #71
Has there ever been a law on the books that anyone put themselves in harm's way? Jamastiene Feb 2013 #86
why pretend to be noble and seethe in resentment and claim special privileges for it? bettyellen Feb 2013 #92
because clearly culture is all codified in laws and something must be 'one's job' or it needn't be HiPointDem Feb 2013 #265
I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. Matariki Feb 2013 #37
Well played... cliffordu Feb 2013 #39
Oh, so you think being a man makes you the oppressed one? nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #61
Again, parsing what's actually written cliffordu Feb 2013 #74
is this stolen from Batman, LOL? hoping you forgot the sarcasm smiley.... bettyellen Feb 2013 #69
Nope. cliffordu Feb 2013 #75
well someone sold you a bill of goods, you don't have a heavier burden than anyone on earth bettyellen Feb 2013 #77
Your post is enlightening and a fine instruction. cliffordu Feb 2013 #78
free your mind, and your ass will follow! bettyellen Feb 2013 #80
Dunno what you're talking about. cliffordu Feb 2013 #81
\you make *your choices* sound like a huge burden- yet say you are comfortable bettyellen Feb 2013 #88
Yep you are exactly right. cliffordu Feb 2013 #91
Good- you needed that! bettyellen Feb 2013 #93
Consider me sufficiently enlightened. cliffordu Feb 2013 #94
better enlightened than a white knight with a martyr complex. bettyellen Feb 2013 #99
That would be me. cliffordu Feb 2013 #102
Since when? Jamastiene Feb 2013 #85
The cops can take an hour to show up. cliffordu Feb 2013 #89
Then, don't resent it. Jamastiene Feb 2013 #97
I don't resent any of it, cliffordu Feb 2013 #101
you seem to be blissfully unaware that just as many women and minorities bettyellen Feb 2013 #227
Your post enlightens and instructs. cliffordu Feb 2013 #228
Well what a load of self justifying and content light verbiage intaglio Feb 2013 #111
Golly gosh. cliffordu Feb 2013 #143
Who said it was roses and beer? intaglio Feb 2013 #173
So do I know as much as you do about the guilt feelings the patriarchy instills in men, or Squinch Feb 2013 #140
Neither. cliffordu Feb 2013 #144
But you know that my post is just really restating the OP, right? Squinch Feb 2013 #159
I am Jewish. Cary Feb 2013 #153
This message was self-deleted by its author cliffordu Feb 2013 #155
Even when privilege is pointed out there are those here who ignore or dismiss it Major Nikon Feb 2013 #256
someone who doesn't have to believe in a god in order to get through the daily routine of life? snooper2 Feb 2013 #36
Thinking you might be right. cliffordu Feb 2013 #41
A privilege is ANYTHING that is taken by means of ANY advantage & not through any consensual patrice Feb 2013 #113
I'm not ignoring you - I will respond to your post later as my day is turning out to be hectic. cliffordu Feb 2013 #152
I don't even like the term progressive Mnpaul Feb 2013 #21
Error #1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #22
It's like fish thinking there's something wrong with other creatures drowning in water Matariki Feb 2013 #24
I have used that exact analogy ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #25
It's woven into our very language Matariki Feb 2013 #30
Just a minor nitpick. And it really is a nitpick. white_wolf Feb 2013 #50
It is confusing to me on the dark=evil thing especially. Jamastiene Feb 2013 #95
I love the night too. I like it alot better than day actually. white_wolf Feb 2013 #96
But the ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #178
Good point. white_wolf Feb 2013 #277
How refreshing ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #279
Being more privileged than someone else is not the same as being unable to listen or emphathize. merrily Feb 2013 #55
Nailed. It. Number23 Feb 2013 #82
But...but...but....we have a black president now Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #106
I know, right??! Number23 Feb 2013 #107
I call that The Beyonce Defense gollygee Feb 2013 #118
That's not the issue quite a few people have with the post... MellowDem Feb 2013 #170
I agree, though there may be a limit somewhere treestar Feb 2013 #23
Matariki, they get it. They really do... Jasana Feb 2013 #27
K&R ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #28
Look at these priviliged tykes Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #29
It is possible to be part of a privileged group while being part of a non-privileged group. ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #31
Thank you. Matariki Feb 2013 #35
No problem. ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #43
thank you for your excellent post hopemountain Feb 2013 #44
I missed nothing, nor do I desire to erase anything Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #47
So, rich black people don't get pulled over for DWB? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #68
You are over-simplifying the matter. ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #103
You just lumped all white people, all straight people, and all men together Confusious Feb 2013 #183
What? ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #214
So the white male hetrosexual bum Confusious Feb 2013 #216
No. I don't think so. ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #229
Well, you see herein lies the problem Confusious Feb 2013 #233
Colorblind racism gollygee Feb 2013 #243
Hmm...I see what you are getting at. ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #244
Sure it is Confusious Feb 2013 #79
It's still called "don't be an ass hole." ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #115
You hit all the social justice warrior buzzwords Confusious Feb 2013 #207
Social justice warrior buzzwords? ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #226
No, I'm not calling you a hypocrite Confusious Feb 2013 #239
Okay, good. I was just a little uncertain because most of the Tumblr meme focused on hypocrisy. ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #245
Nice post. But it's important to remember, that even those poor white kids Number23 Feb 2013 #104
I wasn't sure when those pictures were taken, so I was mostly speaking in a more modern context. ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #112
No, I don't think your post negated anything. Number23 Feb 2013 #192
Your 2 cents are appreciated. ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #231
It's my pleasure. I appreciate your efforts to educate. And judging by the poster you are Number23 Feb 2013 #235
I always take my vitamins! ChaoticTrilby Feb 2013 #246
African Americans have been graduating from Yale since the 1840's Confusious Feb 2013 #176
Oh my God. No, really? gollygee Feb 2013 #184
Good gravy. Number23 Feb 2013 #191
Moving the goalposts Confusious Feb 2013 #194
Segregation and racial discrimination would have precluded the vast majority of blacks from attendin Number23 Feb 2013 #198
Still moving the goalposts Confusious Feb 2013 #199
No, "most of the north" had not integrated by the 30s gollygee Feb 2013 #203
That one has his head buried in the sand and a bulldozer couldn't get it out Number23 Feb 2013 #212
Five edits for that foolishness? Number23 Feb 2013 #213
Wow, you are the model social justice warrior Confusious Feb 2013 #217
The fact that you are working so hard to condemn people who are concerned about social justice Number23 Feb 2013 #218
Par for the course Confusious Feb 2013 #230
OK. Why nobody can see it. gollygee Feb 2013 #241
Jury results: JackBeck Feb 2013 #219
Thanks, Jack. I tried, you know. I edited, but the sentiment most certainly remains Number23 Feb 2013 #220
Why do some people act like pointing out societal priviledge is just a ploy to make them feel guilty Matariki Feb 2013 #33
You weren't pointing out societal privilege... MellowDem Feb 2013 #167
Point well taken customerserviceguy Feb 2013 #34
I dare you to post this in meta and see the response you get. LOL boston bean Feb 2013 #38
+1 redqueen Feb 2013 #45
Or TMG. Nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #70
Well stated. October Feb 2013 #42
r-e-s-p-e-c-t hopemountain Feb 2013 #46
Yes! I tried to sketch the rational basis for why respect is absolutely essential to this patrice Feb 2013 #114
Some would regard me as under privileged for being DeadEyeDyck Feb 2013 #49
Matariki, I want to thank you NeeDeep Feb 2013 #51
I would have expected that OP to be uncontroversial among Democrats. Silly me. merrily Feb 2013 #56
Part of privilege means being able to pretend privilege doesn't exist. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #58
I would think that's part of being an asshole, not part of being a privileged Democrat. merrily Feb 2013 #59
The ability is different than the propensity. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #60
Yes, but I would expect that of most Democratic males. merrily Feb 2013 #62
People like to think of themselves as the underdog. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #63
But, also as winners and also as reality based, rather than delusional merrily Feb 2013 #65
Well, yeah, they're a winner for what they've done, not the advantages they have! Nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #67
I would have thought that my post 56 was not terribly controversial, either. merrily Feb 2013 #76
Welcome to DU Number23 Feb 2013 #215
I Reject the Framing AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #72
A pretty silly and somewhat obnoxious post. MrModerate Feb 2013 #73
Agreed but also I find the OP to be rather odd. Cary Feb 2013 #138
My favorite quote ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #84
I tried to break down some of the problems in recognizing this in my post #113 above. patrice Feb 2013 #117
I see that ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #135
There is so much that is about process, how to_____ ,everything else can be affected by that. nt patrice Feb 2013 #157
It is also important for the "disinfranchised" AND progressive to remember... Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #98
That is very important. boston bean Feb 2013 #141
"If more people would focus on the issue versus those pointing it out, we might get somewhere." redqueen Feb 2013 #165
+1 leftstreet Feb 2013 #180
trust the person making the claim sigmasix Feb 2013 #109
From my experience with this subject TM99 Feb 2013 #110
Your response to the OP FlaGranny Feb 2013 #121
As I said, TM99 Feb 2013 #162
There's a saying ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #182
Oh I DO like that. MuseRider Feb 2013 #237
As is the norm ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #185
That is a very good phrasing of the problem! KitSileya Feb 2013 #208
I, initially, had added ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #210
I note that 90 people have Rec'd this, not 6 gollygee Feb 2013 #116
I have a good illustration.... Burma Jones Feb 2013 #122
Progressive is a DLC term formercia Feb 2013 #124
The reason I say 'progressive' DaveJ Feb 2013 #129
but do "progressives" exist? Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #160
liberal assumes a commitment BainsBane Feb 2013 #196
This thread has earned the Ron Obvious Award. nt valerief Feb 2013 #127
And precisely who... 99Forever Feb 2013 #128
I cannot see one instance in the OP where who is privileged and who is not is pointed out. KitSileya Feb 2013 #209
The implication is quite clear. 99Forever Feb 2013 #211
Isn't it only privileged people who call themselves "progressive"? harmonicon Feb 2013 #142
I posted in Meta about something similar Aerows Feb 2013 #148
the concept of "offending" or "offensive" have been dumbed down alc Feb 2013 #151
Yes. But it cuts both ways. Don't put up a wall and call it a door. nolabear Feb 2013 #158
Being a white male has made life so goddamn easy for me, I tell you. Comrade_McKenzie Feb 2013 #166
A good 50 or 60% of the developing world wickerwoman Feb 2013 #223
The problem with the privilege meme is that, like your post, snagglepuss Feb 2013 #232
In the context of this discussion, wickerwoman Feb 2013 #247
yes, and their lives are no doubt harder than yours as well. now what? with that revelation HiPointDem Feb 2013 #264
See the OP. wickerwoman Feb 2013 #268
kind of circular. accepting your privilege leads to respect when other people tell you they're HiPointDem Feb 2013 #273
It leads to social change in the sense that wickerwoman Feb 2013 #274
if people don't know better than to call each other racists and bitches, i doubt telling them HiPointDem Feb 2013 #275
I had no idea that "Aunt Nancy" was the LGBT equivalent of "Uncle Tom" KamaAina Feb 2013 #168
You seem to have brought the MRAs out in force intaglio Feb 2013 #179
sexism BainsBane Feb 2013 #193
MRAs? WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #236
Mens Rights Activists intaglio Feb 2013 #252
Thanks WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #269
I just wish the privileged would acknowledge it and SHUT UP FOR ONCE AngryAmish Feb 2013 #197
Notice the members of privileged groups in this very thread who took offense with your OP... YoungDemCA Feb 2013 #240
Re: the concept of privileged frazzled Feb 2013 #242
Okay, but what if you've listened to the opinion, and considered it, and thought about it. BlueCheese Feb 2013 #250
Your first point is interesting intaglio Feb 2013 #257
I guess what I see here is a lot of disagreement. BlueCheese Feb 2013 #258
You might choose not to have an opinion about it wickerwoman Feb 2013 #271
I think we agree more than we disagree. BlueCheese Feb 2013 #272
I'm nothing except me. babylonsister Feb 2013 #251
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