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grantcart

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35. Bush isn't as stupid as people think he is
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 08:23 PM
Mar 2013

With his father's experience and advice I expect that Bush's moral misdeeds probably never crossed the line of legal action, he was too smart and had too many lawyers reading everything he signed.

Cheney on the other hand had his fingerprints all over everything including Plame and interfering with specific intelligence procedure.

We should have started low, gotten people to flip and worked our way up. We might have gotten as far as Cheney but I doubt that there was a culpable action that would prove 'high crime'.

Turning intelligence on its head would not have been a crime as long as there was one credible intelligence source that agreed with what he wanted to do.

Interfering and blocking intelligence, which Cheney certainly did, would have been impeachable.
Yes. On September 12, 2001. IdaBriggs Mar 2013 #1
+1000 kairos12 Mar 2013 #75
Cheney should have been tried as a war criminal. Dubya too, but I'd have been content just to hlthe2b Mar 2013 #2
Yes n/t dwilso40641 Mar 2013 #3
Yes, but the Republicans had already salted the earth, making that near impossible. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #4
Chasing the mystical independents is little more than a rationalization for acting in bad faith. TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #25
Which may well have been the point of the whole sorry episode. TheMadMonk Mar 2013 #38
Looking back, I wonder if that was not the real reason they did it. RC Mar 2013 #79
Is Good preferable to Evil? randome Mar 2013 #5
Yes. forestpath Mar 2013 #6
Yes nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #7
Yes. sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #8
He should never have been appointed in the first place. baldguy Mar 2013 #9
+ 1000! nt Still Blue in PDX Mar 2013 #21
It would never have succeeded - even in the House karynnj Mar 2013 #10
wow, that is sad, your description of America RobertEarl Mar 2013 #13
I spoke of a specific period in time in our Congress karynnj Mar 2013 #19
Right, No disagreement RobertEarl Mar 2013 #47
Well said loyalsister Mar 2013 #41
Really? RobertEarl Mar 2013 #52
Yawn. What's next, is air good? NightWatcher Mar 2013 #11
what kind of question is this? now? well it doesnt matter nancy said impeachment is off the table leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #12
not just yes, but hell yes RussBLib Mar 2013 #14
Yes and no. s-cubed Mar 2013 #15
Can you give us a link? nt raccoon Mar 2013 #72
Yes, but then so should Obama 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #16
please grow up larkrake Mar 2013 #18
Should a, Would a, Could a, but until 2006, it wasn't possible because Republicans controlled the Agnosticsherbet Mar 2013 #17
We took the House and Senate in the Nov 2006 election and they took office in 2007 karynnj Mar 2013 #22
In June of 2008, Kucinich and Wexler took impeachment to the floor of the House with 35 articles Agnosticsherbet Mar 2013 #71
He and Cheney Aerows Mar 2013 #20
Immediately, if not sooner. Still Blue in PDX Mar 2013 #23
Tried as a war criminal, impeached and charged with treason by allowing Cleita Mar 2013 #24
How did he "allow" the Court to do anything? He was only a candidate at the time. brooklynite Mar 2013 #33
Did you not follow what was going on at that time or were you in a cave Cleita Mar 2013 #40
Explain to me what the CRIME is, and what evidence you have to prove it... brooklynite Mar 2013 #45
What? I'm a prosecutor now? Cleita Mar 2013 #46
Not a Bush Backer...I believe in the Law whether it's on my side or not. brooklynite Mar 2013 #48
There are laws out there but no one has the cojones to charge him and Cheney with Cleita Mar 2013 #54
What-is-the-Law??? brooklynite Mar 2013 #55
There are several replies on this very thread that will address your poutrage. Cleita Mar 2013 #56
Oh hell yeah! muntrv Mar 2013 #26
Yes. DinahMoeHum Mar 2013 #27
YES putitinD Mar 2013 #28
Yes, on many grounds Warpy Mar 2013 #29
No the Supreme Court should have been impeached. Kalidurga Mar 2013 #30
For what "High Crime"? brooklynite Mar 2013 #31
for mass murder HiPointDem Mar 2013 #43
So you believe Roosevelt and Truman should have been convicted as well? brooklynite Mar 2013 #44
It is essentially a US crime under international law. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #68
YES, OF COURSE MoonRiver Mar 2013 #32
You ok with preemptive war? XRubicon Mar 2013 #34
Bush isn't as stupid as people think he is grantcart Mar 2013 #35
Yes n/t NealK Mar 2013 #36
YES YES YES heather blossom Mar 2013 #37
Yes! haikugal Mar 2013 #39
yes HiPointDem Mar 2013 #42
yes. Terra Alta Mar 2013 #49
Yes. johnp3907 Mar 2013 #50
He should be in JAIL! liberal N proud Mar 2013 #51
Yes Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2013 #53
Definitely, without respect for its chance of succeeding magellan Mar 2013 #57
Just like the Republicans showed "we still have principles" by impeaching Bill Clinton, right? brooklynite Mar 2013 #59
Are you seriously comparing lying about a BJ to lying this country into war? magellan Mar 2013 #63
No; I'm being realistic, rather than emotional. brooklynite Mar 2013 #64
We disagree. n/t magellan Mar 2013 #65
Yes. Solly Mack Mar 2013 #58
is the sky blue? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #60
He should have been jailed, and he still should be. lonestarnot Mar 2013 #61
Yes. nt Gemini Cat Mar 2013 #62
Impeached, tried for crimes against humanity and hanged. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #66
Absolutely and Cheney, Rice and Powell should be behind bars doc03 Mar 2013 #67
They should have impeached both Bush and Cheney MiniMe Mar 2013 #69
How do you impeach a guy who was never elected? nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #70
Yes WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #73
Fuck yeah!!! straight to prison at that! nt and-justice-for-all Mar 2013 #74
Yes! KansDem Mar 2013 #76
And promptly. leveymg Mar 2013 #77
Yes. And Dick Cheney as well. raging moderate Mar 2013 #78
Should Dubya have been impeached? Flashmann Mar 2013 #80
Congress knew the Iraq arguments were BS but voted yes anyways Recursion Mar 2013 #81
"Should" is irrelevant Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #82
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