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Egalitarian Thug

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12. Yeah, that kind of misses the point though, doesn't it?
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:29 AM
Mar 2013

The whole point was that the the rights are, and the Constitution simply acknowledges what is.

As far as this arc thing goes, if there is such a thing, I mean beyond a series treatment being pitched to an executive, it is not so much an arc as a flat line representing a concerted effort to conceal what is still going on.

Women's right to vote has been reluctantly recognized most places, as has the right for people of differing races, but here in what we like to pretend is a democracy, that right is restricted to the right to vote for whom the rulers decide we can vote for. So what we're really talking about is the right to choose which face we would rather see beating us. Hardly the future envisioned by Paine, Franklin, Adams, Jefferson, et al.

I like the art, the incense, but I draw the line at original sin.... midnight Mar 2013 #1
He was talking about the Western Christian view of Original Sin. knitter4democracy Mar 2013 #2
"Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man." Thomas Paine Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #3
people don't need a God to be cruel to each other liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #6
But, doing God's Will comes in handy as a rationalization for cruelty. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #19
An analogy: You can go through life believing in the times-tables, receiving them from "authority", patrice Mar 2013 #4
I take it more literally to mean he was saying freedom of thought RainDog Mar 2013 #5
The United States of America, and I think Mr. Paine would have agreed, was the crowning achievement Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #7
It was flawed from the beginning by slavery RainDog Mar 2013 #8
The Enlightenment may not be over, but it's been in hibernation here for about two centuries. Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #9
The arc has been toward extending human rights RainDog Mar 2013 #10
Yeah, that kind of misses the point though, doesn't it? Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #12
history is what it is RainDog Mar 2013 #13
Certainly not here in dumbfuckistan, where fantasy is King and all the serfs are fat & happy. Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #14
Paine was a brilliant rhetorician and laugh-out-loud funny: struggle4progress Mar 2013 #11
Thank you for that read. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #15
He was an interesting figure RainDog Mar 2013 #16
Thanks for the referrals and references. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #17
My focus was on printing (and rhetoric) RainDog Mar 2013 #18
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