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Kurmudgeon

(1,751 posts)
185. At least I'm not calling you names. And no one is forced, believe what you wish.
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 08:49 PM
Feb 2012

Just give others the same courtesy by allowing them to speak or post how they believe.
BTW, in a public forum with many entries, using time between responses as ammunition is incredibly lame.

you rock girl!...They just shudder and grab the pitchforks when their myths are challenged snooper2 Jan 2012 #1
very brave bigtree Jan 2012 #2
The christian soldiers are stronger than ever in our country FlaGatorJD Jan 2012 #3
She is a true hero for anyone who understands what's right. HuckleB Jan 2012 #4
That is one brave and principled young woman hifiguy Jan 2012 #5
"Others said it reflected secular values they held dear" NoGOPZone Jan 2012 #6
They can post it in their own homes, then Mariana Jan 2012 #50
GO GIRL! My youngest is an eclectic pagan. Freedom OF religion also means FROM it. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #7
No it doesn't, you can't add words to the Bill of Rights that take rights away. Kurmudgeon Jan 2012 #51
We have separation of church and state, though. Quantess Jan 2012 #52
Thanks. That's what I was going to say. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #55
As long as the Church The Wizard Jan 2012 #78
Then brand them by their tax number, leave everyone else and their freedom alone. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #181
Hahahahahahahhahahaha cleanhippie Feb 2012 #191
Freedom of religion includes the right to choose none. n/t Gore1FL Jan 2012 #77
So you get to choose none for others too then, funny how you interpret freedom. Kurmudgeon Jan 2012 #98
Right, it's 'intolerance' to say that prayer doesn't belong in public schools. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #103
It's intolerance for you to think you can stop free speech. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #167
Oh, there is deranged prejudicial hostility here, alright. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #172
And then the calling of the names begins, because you have reason on your side, eh? Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #182
Uhm, I am merly repeating WHAT YOU JUST SAID TO SOMEONE ELSE. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #188
Nobody ever said atheism should be promoted at school, either. Quantess Jan 2012 #108
Atheism in the none of the above choice, and it shouldn't get special treatment either. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #168
Wow, that sure is SOME paranoia you have there. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #176
Down to name calling again, I see. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #183
Continuing the fabrication of facts, I see. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #189
I don;t choose for anyone else. Gore1FL Jan 2012 #109
Then don't, just allow others their freedom of speech and assembly. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #170
The state should not promote one religion over any other. hack89 Feb 2012 #184
You can have speech and assembly. No one is stopping you from having speech and assembly. Gore1FL Feb 2012 #193
Give me a fucking break PVnRT Jan 2012 #117
Funny how you only feel this way when it is YOUR religion. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #121
Funny how you only feel this way when it's against Christianity, prejudice much? Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #171
It's "Secular, Atheist ISLAM" to YOU. Is that you, Newt? PassingFair Feb 2012 #177
If we're talking about public schools, fuck YES it is freedom FROM religion. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #95
BTW, did you notice that you happen to be the censor in this situation? Kurmudgeon Jan 2012 #99
Okay. What part of STATE SPONSORED PRAYER IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL don't you understand? Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #101
Nothing about state sponsored in the article, now curse some more. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #164
"the prayer’s presence at Cranston High School West was unconstitutional" - Why so obtuse? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #186
It was a christian prayer on the wall of a STATE owned and operated school. hack89 Feb 2012 #187
So you'd be fine with a Buhddist prayer on the school wall? JFN1 Jan 2012 #119
Of course not. He has clearly demonstarted on several occasions that he only feels this way cleanhippie Jan 2012 #122
I bet you have more posts against things on this forum than I do. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #166
Are you saying that to convince yourself? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #169
No, I'm pointing out YOUR obvious tactic. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #173
Keep telling yourself that. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #179
Sure, why not? And it's a freedom to be Christian or whatever you want country. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #165
When someone tries to legislate or force christians into hiding, please let us know. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #174
What Public Office Does That Poster Represent? ProfessorGAC Jan 2012 #135
As you have demonstarted, that only applies when its YOUR religion that is infringing. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #120
Again, you use your excuse to justify intolerance. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #175
No one is trying to silence anyone. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #180
49 years? surrealAmerican Jan 2012 #8
Its the same mentality as those who say "Its just a little prayer! Just sit quietly and meditate or riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #33
Beaming good vibes at Jessica. immoderate Jan 2012 #9
I understand there are many christians who would like to see it stay there Quantess Jan 2012 #10
They know religion doesn't belong in a public school. Mariana Jan 2012 #107
Or brand anything that offends you "religion" then remove it. Good tactic, worked for the Romans. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #178
Oh, you are so right, this banner that read "school prayer" and started with "our Heavenly Father" cleanhippie Feb 2012 #192
From what I know about Roger Williams, he'd be up in arms about this. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #11
Way to go Jessica. Religion is scary. Religions comprised of people Zorra Jan 2012 #12
+1 sarcasmo Jan 2012 #24
Stay strong against the zealot nutbags, Jessica! Arugula Latte Jan 2012 #13
How sad. hfojvt Jan 2012 #14
Rick Santorum, is that you? callous taoboy Jan 2012 #16
Maybe we could have a religious image as a header for every DU page? Zorra Jan 2012 #18
Yes. How sad that someone risks threats of violence to stand up for the constitution Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #19
Beautifully put, once again, Mr. DeMontague. callous taoboy Jan 2012 #29
Love it!! hifiguy Jan 2012 #32
you clearly do not understand hfojvt Jan 2012 #42
Well, you have a list of quotes there, which proves you have a list of quotes. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #44
the list of quotes was there not to prove anytrhing hfojvt Jan 2012 #59
If they want prayer to be a part of their kids education, send them to private religious schools. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #65
Why wasn't that the case in 1946 then? hfojvt Jan 2012 #69
Same reason that school segregation didn't end until Brown v. Board of Education. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #70
Bravo, bravo, bravo!!! October Jan 2012 #90
if I am the one who is mad here, bub hfojvt Jan 2012 #105
Your grasp of law and history, calm or not, is severely limited. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #106
you are always free to send your children to a private atheist school hfojvt Jan 2012 #114
You're simply wrong, and it's bigger than one SCOTUS decision. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #115
Outstanding, Warren! hifiguy Jan 2012 #126
because you still have not answered the question hfojvt Jan 2012 #143
"Most people" also didn't think the constitution precluded school segregation. And they were wrong. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #145
So, you're for "Majority Rule"??? October Feb 2012 #163
So I take it that you are okay with the Koran being taught in public schools as the truth, then? Arugula Latte Jan 2012 #137
Sorry, I cannot help you hfojvt Jan 2012 #144
You think it's a state's rights issue?! riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #146
SPOT ON!! Casandia Jan 2012 #75
Wow. WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #47
Everything you just posted is irrelelvent fascisthunter Jan 2012 #49
that's just it - OUR tax dollars. Not yours, not only the atheists or agnostics tax dollars. hfojvt Jan 2012 #60
So that's your argument? That it was legal in the 17 and 1800s? So was slavery. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2012 #61
I seem to recall a hfojvt Jan 2012 #63
pssst, what about the 14th Amendment? Viking12 Jan 2012 #80
YOUR churches are ALREADY tax exempt. That's more than fucking plenty, bub. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #71
my oh my, what twisting you have exhibited... sorry, the state doesn't promote christianity fascisthunter Jan 2012 #85
Didn't someone big in your religion say something about giving unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's? n/t Gore1FL Jan 2012 #110
You need that assurance, do you? pokerfan Jan 2012 #54
it has to be said hfojvt Jan 2012 #62
OK. I'm the new principal of your kid's school. I just decided we're going to recite Buddhist lindysalsagal Jan 2012 #96
Notice how quiet he gets as soon as you make the religion being forced NOT his religion? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #123
Oooh, but their religion is SPECIAL, see?! Arugula Latte Jan 2012 #138
actually I have quoted Franklin on this matter hfojvt Jan 2012 #161
Buddhist, it is! (On the school wall:) "O Amida, Oneness of Life and Light, lindysalsagal Feb 2012 #194
huh? Maybe the comment was so dumb it did not deserve a response. hfojvt Jan 2012 #160
Thank you for at least acknowledging that you have no idea how things work. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #162
At least I'm not calling you names. And no one is forced, believe what you wish. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #185
No one is calling you names. Take your persecution complex elsewhere. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #190
"Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius"... Zorra Jan 2012 #57
+1 MrCoffee Jan 2012 #21
funny sarcasmo Jan 2012 #25
Chances are, she doesn't want / need you to. n/t chrisa Jan 2012 #37
You're perfectly free to mumble to yourself in this country. n/t backscatter712 Jan 2012 #38
Don't pray in my school _ed_ Jan 2012 #58
What makes you think hfojvt Jan 2012 #64
The court sided with her for a reason. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #102
They're activist liberal commies Ter Jan 2012 #111
I'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #112
Does your religion want to take over the US government? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #149
They should be hailing her as a hero of American values. Must take a brave person to yellowcanine Jan 2012 #15
I am very proud of her. She gets it. Those who would tag her as an "evil little thing" callous taoboy Jan 2012 #17
remember, she's the intolerant bigot, here Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #20
+1 sarcasmo Jan 2012 #26
How graceful those who disagree with her have been! NOT!!! n/t MarkCharles Jan 2012 #22
Someday, maybe a Christian will see this stuff is wrong Warpy Jan 2012 #23
Jessica Alquist is one brave person Tsiyu Jan 2012 #27
He's typical of Rhode Island state house "Democrats" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2012 #152
Yep, more religious hypocrites. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #28
Here is Palumbo's info Tsiyu Jan 2012 #30
With "Democrats" like him rucky Jan 2012 #74
Thank you! CrispyQ Jan 2012 #83
Phew. Good thing these hateful words will be removed. Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #31
Evidently, those words aren't taken seriously NoGOPZone Jan 2012 #34
Here, I fixed it for you... riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #35
Thank you. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #76
Because obviously, only religious folks would follow such rules..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2012 #153
Do you feel it's important to have them presented as a prayer? callous taoboy Jan 2012 #36
Exactly what part of the Establishment Clause don't you understand? Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #39
I think the answer is WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #40
I believe that Congress should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #41
The SCOTUS has repeatedly affirmed that the Establishment Clause pertains to prayer in public school Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #43
Not only that, Warren, but in the town where I reside even tax payer funded property callous taoboy Jan 2012 #45
well, I guess if SCOTUS says it, I believe it, and that settles it hfojvt Jan 2012 #66
The Bush v. Gore decision was handled in such a way to SPECIFICALLY preclude establishing precedence Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #68
so a 5-4 you agree with is good, but a 5-4 you disagree with is bad hfojvt Jan 2012 #72
No. If you get off on arguing with yourself, buy a puppet. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #73
spot on! callous taoboy Feb 2012 #195
As a private individual, I am not bound by Supreme Court rulings, Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #87
No, and you are free to personally pray anywhere your private individual wants. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #89
That "innocuous banner" is 8 foot tall headed with "School Prayer" in RED riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #91
Isn't funny how believers are constantly reassuring non-believers about how harmless and friendly Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #94
Why do you Christians feel the need to have a prayer banner up? PVnRT Jan 2012 #118
too bad! Use your own private property to shove religion down somebody's throat fascisthunter Jan 2012 #48
Not hateful words, just exclusive words. Words that have no place in public. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #86
I don't have a heavenly father. Nor do I have a fairy god mother, a tooth fairy, a santa clause lindysalsagal Jan 2012 #97
The court sided with her for a reason. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #104
Wait...you're the same guy beating the pro-police-brutality drum DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #150
They let the "Let's Destroy America" guys back into the US? Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #151
And many others. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #157
poor, poor religious folks. Not allowed to use tax dollars to shove religion down everyone's throat fascisthunter Jan 2012 #46
they are words on a wall. Back in my day, you did not eat the words of wit hfojvt Jan 2012 #67
too fucking bad... it's a constitutional issue you don't care about fascisthunter Jan 2012 #82
Cranston is nuts. As a Christian I agree completely with Jessica. I do my own praying and I do it jwirr Jan 2012 #53
A few anti-atheist bigots in this site were calling Jessica a bigot, UGH! Odin2005 Jan 2012 #56
While trying to deny they were doing so in the same breath. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #79
Kudos Johnny2X2X Jan 2012 #81
Public prayer is frowned upon The Wizard Jan 2012 #84
Nobody was making anybody pray. (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #88
What an awesome, brave human being she is. Zhade Jan 2012 #92
And by ending 49 years of horrible tyranny, Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #93
Glad you agree. WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #100
Why so angrily bitter? JFN1 Jan 2012 #116
No, you're correct. We should all "happily accept" court decisions regarding what is Constitutional. Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #124
So you disagree with this decision? Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #125
What specific religion? Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #127
There are many in which it is not. Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #128
Every year my kids' public school has a concert to celebrate Hannukah and Christmas, Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #129
Oh, so someone standing up for their 1st Amendment rights is a "hissy fit" now? Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #132
I don't think kids should be forced to recite the Lord's Prayer every day Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #136
So get rid of the word "prayer" at the top of the banner Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #140
"Our Heavenly Father" is not a positive message. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #141
And there are a few for whom "God" is not a concept at all. . annabanana Jan 2012 #147
Well sure. JFN1 Jan 2012 #148
while I am a .... geekd Jan 2012 #113
Thank You, Jessica Alquist. Raffi Ella Jan 2012 #130
Not a Christian prayer. Dozens of religions have a "heavenly father" (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #131
religious prayer, then. Raffi Ella Jan 2012 #133
Please let me know which other religions are complaining about this. Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #134
Of course they do, because religion is misogynistic. Arugula Latte Jan 2012 #139
I nice FAQ about issues of the case Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #142
Excellent commentary on this case MNBrewer Jan 2012 #155
Evil Little Thing tshirts for sale, proceeds go to a scholarship fund for Jessica Nevernose Jan 2012 #154
I'll be... damn. This is too awesome for words. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #156
I would've ordered one for myself Nevernose Jan 2012 #158
*guffaw* 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #159
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