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azureblue

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70. remember the old phrase
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 09:40 PM
Mar 2013

about arguing with idiots? "They will bring you down to their level, their minds will never change and they have way more experience being idiots than you do". They are brainwashed, blinded by ideology, out of touch with reality and humanity, and they can't be changed. The only thing that changes them is when reality up and bites them. Save your breath and don't feel guilty. "You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make one drink"

I am tired of living in a patriarchy, period. love_katz Mar 2013 #1
Broad brush much or what? Mopar151 Mar 2013 #29
You're offended on behalf of the patriarchy? redqueen Mar 2013 #40
Boosterisim, which is what happened here, is more like an absence of partiarchy Mopar151 Mar 2013 #78
?????????? DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #126
Paterno may have played at being a patriarch Mopar151 Mar 2013 #130
Another candidate for dumbest thing ever written here. Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #47
+1 n/t eggplant Mar 2013 #55
Thanks for that. smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #145
Patriarchy is a social construct chervilant Mar 2013 #128
Me too. It's completely out of balance with our better instincts. gtar100 Mar 2013 #114
Thank you for the reply. love_katz Mar 2013 #132
You shouldn't feel terrible. EOTE Mar 2013 #2
Most assuredly you shouldn't feel terrible! calimary Mar 2013 #97
Remember that you have limits, and that today she violated them. You are HUMAN. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #3
Devils advocate, to a point, nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #4
I can understand how it would be really hard to remain calm and level headed when... love_katz Mar 2013 #5
Hey... I think you've got something there... ReRe Mar 2013 #49
Actually, I believe the reports on Steubenville indicated that Jane Doe vomited. spooky3 Mar 2013 #87
Oh really? I didn't hear that report. ReRe Mar 2013 #90
The motivation for the RAPISTS was to humiliate RVN VET Mar 2013 #111
Huh? Hello? You are answering someone else's question? ReRe Mar 2013 #135
She sure didn't express herself well. Maybe she thinks that people of all genders didn't southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #6
The adults who permitted, condoned, and encouraged the drinking are criminals. lapislzi Mar 2013 #15
Your right. I just don't get where were the parents that owned the homes this was going on? southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #19
"There was enough blame to go around" <-- Yep, that girl should never ever be alone with a guy!! bettyellen Mar 2013 #36
Hey Betty, I think I have a right to my opinion just like you have your right to yours. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #58
"If she had been sober she could have punch the guy and left had he tried something."<--Rape Culture bettyellen Mar 2013 #59
Well Betty Guess whatever you say is fine. Rape culture. Ok whatever. One thing southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #62
Stop blaming the victim MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #63
Sorry, I stand by my opinion. You stand by yours. I am not blaming her for being raped. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #65
Disgusting MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #67
You kidding? Grow Up. Last time I checked this forum is a DISCUSSION forum. It doesn't southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #83
You got one thing right Caretha Mar 2013 #79
Yep, you are "sorry" too. KMA southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #81
She got drunk cause that’s what many do at her age. Just because you didn’t drink, don’t start busterbrown Mar 2013 #95
Exactly! lapislzi Mar 2013 #100
Well now you see what happens when a person isn't in control because they were drinking. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #102
You live in your very own bubble which covers you from reality. busterbrown Mar 2013 #113
I am living in reality sweetie pie. So you think it is ok for teens to go out and drink and act southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #121
No I don’t think its o.k...... I just know it happens and there is not a thing you can... busterbrown Mar 2013 #131
You live in your reality of kids doing things that are illegal and I will live in mine. I am no southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #136
“Kids shouldn’t” God ...in a perfect world maybe..... busterbrown Mar 2013 #137
Well I dunno. I am not saying am perfect. Not at all. But I will tell you this much if southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #139
I hope everything remains well with your family... busterbrown Mar 2013 #142
Yes, I'm kind of tired too. We all had some say and we can leave it at that. Thanks for southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #144
So rape prevention is blaming the victim? davidn3600 Mar 2013 #112
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #147
I am not entirely sure that the girl willingly drank. lapislzi Mar 2013 #72
I think they deserve to sit in jail for raping the girl. To me all am trying to say that southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #80
With all due respect, don't be naive. lapislzi Mar 2013 #101
On the contrary I think the parents should be in jail for allowing them to have booze at the house. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #103
Evidently nothing. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #124
Let me get this straight, a girl goes to a couple of parties with who she thinks are friends... Humanist_Activist Mar 2013 #86
She’s gone....Thank God..... busterbrown Mar 2013 #96
I have no idea about this whole case what really went down. Neither do you. So say all southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #125
I have no idea about this whole case what really went down. mercuryblues Mar 2013 #138
So you think you know everything? I doubt it. No one really knows what happened. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #140
The mercuryblues Mar 2013 #141
I AM NOT BLAMING THE GIRL FOR BEING RAPED. PERIOD, END OF THE FUCKING STORY. I SO southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #143
Really mercuryblues Mar 2013 #149
Well lets face the facts if NONE OF THEM had been drinking this wouldn't have happened. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #150
still ignoring mercuryblues Mar 2013 #151
Have a good day mercuryblues. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. It's southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #152
sure mercuryblues Mar 2013 #153
Let it go mercuryblue. I agree if she was slipped something she didn't know it is a southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #154
now mercuryblues Mar 2013 #155
Sisterhood homegirl Mar 2013 #118
Well I sure see your point and as far as am concerned the girls are just as guilty as the southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #123
I'm sorry you feel terrible... redqueen Mar 2013 #7
There's probably nothing wrong with continuing the conversation on a different level. randome Mar 2013 #8
remember the old phrase azureblue Mar 2013 #70
Apologize for losing it, and take the opportunity to open a dialogue gateley Mar 2013 #9
you really shouldn't feel bad, not every case has to be polite"teachable moments" JI7 Mar 2013 #10
You did just fine. She got defensive, which is not unusual. MineralMan Mar 2013 #11
If you want people to understand you, it is helpful to understand them, because they react as patrice Mar 2013 #12
I do hear you. I think if we start from a place of common ground we might make some headway. lapislzi Mar 2013 #18
Exactly! And one thing that, to me, always breaks what appears to be a dead-heat between two points patrice Mar 2013 #31
we haven't broken those cognitive links here at DU, even on this thread there's plenty of blame for bettyellen Mar 2013 #37
+ 1,000,000,000,000 love_katz Mar 2013 #88
The Problem Begins With The Usual Quip "She asked for it" grilled onions Mar 2013 #13
+ 1,000,000,000,000 love_katz Mar 2013 #89
You were right to call her out . . . markpkessinger Mar 2013 #14
hopefully she is doing some serious thinking too. Whisp Mar 2013 #16
I would like to say one thing in response to her remarks... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #17
^^^^THIS^^^^^ BillyJack Mar 2013 #75
Don't feel bad--she deserved it Arkana Mar 2013 #20
Update: VINDICATION! lapislzi Mar 2013 #21
Yay for vindication! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #22
Thanks for letting us know. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #25
sometimes it take tough love to sink through the bs noiretextatique Mar 2013 #27
Sometimes you have to snap at people. Blanks Mar 2013 #30
could it be because it's something that happened to you and she knows you JI7 Mar 2013 #33
One mind at a time is good. sheshe2 Mar 2013 #34
Great..such a relief. .. I feel so sorry the girl...just wanted to check was she nenagh Mar 2013 #41
Sounds like a young lady who knows which side her bread is buttered on alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #43
Well that's OK. lapislzi Mar 2013 #73
"She is not especially well-liked, is known for being a whiner and not a team player" alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #84
Hey, I have done my part with this woman lapislzi Mar 2013 #106
It sounds to me as if you actively dislike this person alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #115
As you wish. lapislzi Mar 2013 #133
You must be an absolute saint! Your response was perfect. Cassidy Mar 2013 #120
Are honesty and compassion mutually exclusive? Cassidy Mar 2013 #122
I have to say that I think you're right. delrem Mar 2013 #77
Can you explain further, and I will do my best to clarify. lapislzi Mar 2013 #107
Aw, that's so good to hear. redqueen Mar 2013 #44
A great thread of optimism to start the weekend! Thanks! randome Mar 2013 #45
Friendly advice: Take a page from Confucius, watch your back LittleBlue Mar 2013 #52
Her googling to get a new job would actually be a good thing for her. lapislzi Mar 2013 #74
Excellent... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #93
I posted my reply at the bottom before I read this. Congrats to you and your coworker! McCamy Taylor Mar 2013 #99
Accept the apology, but watch your back. nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #110
My parents had an elderly neighbor that was raped Blue Gardener Mar 2013 #23
I was raped when I was 8 years old Vanje Mar 2013 #129
I heard a story some years ago SheilaT Mar 2013 #24
omg. I love that story true or not. It's the principle of the thought. Little Star Mar 2013 #39
Tired of hearing about rape culture? Guess what. I'm tired of living in it. So very tired. seabeyond Mar 2013 #26
Actually... RudynJack Mar 2013 #28
+1 I thought we had done away with the Scarlet Lettering of people long ago. Live and Learn Mar 2013 #94
I was telling a conservative relative about rape in the military. Rozlee Mar 2013 #32
I served on a jury a couple of summers ago Control-Z Mar 2013 #35
If she looks up to you... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #38
Don't feel bad Smilo Mar 2013 #42
Glad to hear it all worked out in the end. Rex Mar 2013 #46
This is why places like DU are vital. Keep on fighting the good fight. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2013 #48
OK, I'm a "child of the sixties," which doesn't mean things were wild and promiscuous in most of the maddiemom Mar 2013 #50
Forget about it... ReRe Mar 2013 #51
I simply would have answered rocktivity Mar 2013 #53
There are all kinds of ways you could have talked to her about this. Sadly, you would probably have Iris Mar 2013 #54
Any appology for these criminals defacto7 Mar 2013 #56
You're human, you get to react. Warpy Mar 2013 #57
What the hell is wrong with people? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #60
It is understandable to see you upset. PM Martin Mar 2013 #61
Internalized misogyny. redqueen Mar 2013 #71
Not enough people are verbally dope-slapped. Good on you for doing it. nt valerief Mar 2013 #64
Hmmm...I'm normally against heated political debates at work, ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #66
She expressed "dismay that rapists would be classified as sex offenders." tclambert Mar 2013 #68
Rape culture shaming is okay. bluedigger Mar 2013 #69
I'm so sorry for Cha Mar 2013 #76
Survivors need to quit the fuck apologizing for denouncing rape-in any form. MichiganVote Mar 2013 #82
People who have never been raped TxDemChem Mar 2013 #85
Don't feel bad I do it all the time. Pakid Mar 2013 #91
I appreciate you feel you might have handled it differently BUT..... Swede Atlanta Mar 2013 #92
You feel terrible, because you were raped. And because society says "Get over it" McCamy Taylor Mar 2013 #98
I would not feel terrible in the least ... sometimes what you did is what it takes, and in RKP5637 Mar 2013 #104
No need to apologize for an honest reaction marions ghost Mar 2013 #105
? grschaef Mar 2013 #108
The victims clothing is as meaningful to the conversation as their eye color RedstDem Mar 2013 #109
They have the same reaction to any civil rights and discrimination - victim's fault always lunasun Mar 2013 #116
When I was much younger I said something like your co-worker did and lunatica Mar 2013 #117
You are so right, and thank you for sharing. lapislzi Mar 2013 #134
This message was self-deleted by its author santamargarita Mar 2013 #119
You have nothing to feel bad about. nicky187 Mar 2013 #127
always be carefull about workplace relationships markiv Mar 2013 #146
K&R, Good for you! smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #148
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