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The patriarchy is not some guys telling dongle jokes to each other. Kurska Mar 2013 #1
See? See? SEE WHAT YOU DID? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #15
have a glass of warm milk or something Whisp Mar 2013 #25
"Stroke"? That sounds an awful lot like a sexual innuendo. FOR SHAME! Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #27
Excellent lol.. but.. you forgot the word of the day in that rant.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #29
whatever, dude Whisp Mar 2013 #30
calmer than you are, dude. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #36
"Yeah, WAVING THE FUCKING DONGLE AROUND????!!!!" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2013 #78
Which makes me wonder... opiate69 Mar 2013 #80
SCHEDULING OPIATE69 FOR ASS KICKING Skittles Mar 2013 #85
=-O opiate69 Mar 2013 #96
Do you use google calendar, or what? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #138
it's a living Skittles Mar 2013 #147
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #148
Just sos ya know, though.. I'm no switch, so I won't be paying lol opiate69 Mar 2013 #149
Call Dingell, I can see Dangle's Dongle Dangling. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #137
ok... I seriously laughed out loud.. the dogs are looking at me like I'm nuts opiate69 Mar 2013 #139
vagina Whisp Mar 2013 #130
that's funny as hell datasuspect Mar 2013 #39
el oh el pokerfan Mar 2013 #44
Fist bump. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #26
it'd be funny, if Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #28
We live in interesting times. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #31
Hell, I *live* in Portland, and I've always been sort of lukewarm on that show. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #37
Yes, that sketch was bang-on. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #42
If you buy it dinner first theKed Mar 2013 #76
"Well, if you want to make a donation, we'll have almost enough...." Electric Monk Mar 2013 #40
It's almost like the Matrix, isn't it? nt sylvi Mar 2013 #45
You entirely missed Recursion's point BainsBane Mar 2013 #65
Please explain to me how, exactly, what she did challenged the patriarchy. Kurska Mar 2013 #83
The point is about public reaction BainsBane Mar 2013 #87
They never once used the word "public reaction" in his/her post. There were two lines about it. Kurska Mar 2013 #94
It isn't justifying anything she did BainsBane Mar 2013 #104
He said she fought the patriarchy, how is that anything besides a justification or at least praise? Kurska Mar 2013 #113
Clearly it was partly about this incident BainsBane Mar 2013 #118
Yes I do think an employer would fire someone over a single remark I've seen it Kurska Mar 2013 #144
slandering a man BainsBane Mar 2013 #158
the worst thing in five years is not threats of rape and murder BainsBane Mar 2013 #159
When did I say you had said the worst thing I'd seen on here in five years? Kurska Mar 2013 #164
I don't think she is fighting the "patriarchy" FYI, she is just a self promoter trying to make money snooper2 Mar 2013 #167
Pretty horrible example. They're being treated differently because Marr Mar 2013 #2
Exactly! n/t RiffRandell Mar 2013 #7
Pretty much this. n/t Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #8
You cant take sex out of it. quakerboy Mar 2013 #9
they do though. if they're gay or suspected of being gay, or in situations HiPointDem Mar 2013 #10
And my point is made quakerboy Mar 2013 #24
So your chief objection here is that she was theoretically threatened with rape? n/t Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #38
what is "theoretically threatened with rape"? BainsBane Mar 2013 #66
No. It is my way of avoiding a definitive and possibly libelous statement. n't Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #81
and making clear BainsBane Mar 2013 #82
I think my words and meaning are clear and do not need your revision Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #111
Good luck theKed Mar 2013 #165
I certainly do the same thing myself at times. n/t Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #166
You're not being a busybody to complain about an offensive comment said loudly enough Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #33
Oh, yes you are. Marr Mar 2013 #51
Oh, no you're not. He said it loudly enough in a crowd for others to hear. It's Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #63
But how she handled it is the whole point. Marr Mar 2013 #91
She handled it wrong. But that's not being a busybody, which means interfering in Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #100
yes, it's being a freaking busybody. Like a lady who calls the police because she heard her HiPointDem Mar 2013 #126
So, he said something loud enough to be overheard. Shame on him. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #129
But they violated the house rules in the Python conference. alp227 Mar 2013 #50
why the FUCK is everybody ignoring simple moral issues and bending over backwards to defend the guys redqueen Mar 2013 #55
It wasn't malicious when the guys made the penis joke and it wasn't malicious when she made the dkf Mar 2013 #154
My thoughts exactly brush Mar 2013 #105
she didn't 'challenge the patriarchy'. to equate his act (making a penis joke to a friend) with HiPointDem Mar 2013 #3
My former roomate is thinking of going to school for electronics FrodosPet Mar 2013 #19
People need to just learn to shut the fuck up. Generation_Why Mar 2013 #4
Small issues, like sexism, racism, misogyny? bhikkhu Mar 2013 #5
the jokes aren't why they're not going to get a job; management policies HiPointDem Mar 2013 #11
I don't think you understand bhikkhu Mar 2013 #18
I understand quite well; that culture is tolerated a/o encouraged by management or HiPointDem Mar 2013 #20
There are legitimate problems... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #84
It creates a hostile work environment BainsBane Mar 2013 #68
Oh boo hoo, a professional setting can actually have MANNERS! and STANDARDS!!! alp227 Mar 2013 #52
"they're way too far in adulthood to be making excuses." redqueen Mar 2013 #56
comparing a dongle joke to 'legitimate rape' is a stretch too far Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #150
I'm not surprised at all AnnieBW Mar 2013 #6
Everyone resents being talked down to, and everyone has been talked down HiPointDem Mar 2013 #12
eavesdropping on a conversation she wasn't a part of, taking someone's picture without permission, Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #13
Seems about the size of the whole deal to me. TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #21
! opiate69 Mar 2013 #22
well said Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #41
My Wife is a Feminist who functions very well in the tech industry, doesn't take any shit, Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #43
It's not private when they were in a setting where EVERYONE ELSE could hear their shit. alp227 Mar 2013 #53
Really. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #57
Those guys are ADULTS. They should take responsibility for their behavior. alp227 Mar 2013 #59
I'm sorry, but a "Dongle" joke is not something to make a fucking Federal case over. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #60
What federal case? alp227 Mar 2013 #61
Seriously?? opiate69 Mar 2013 #77
The ONLY reason it is such is because of the trolls who retaliated against Richards. alp227 Mar 2013 #124
what part of "eavesdropping" isn't getting through? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #135
What about shutting up or at least keeping it down in a professional setting? alp227 Mar 2013 #140
Since by all accounts it was ONE Dongle joke Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #142
So what if Richards has ethical issues of her own? alp227 Mar 2013 #143
Joking about a "big dongle" to your buddy is not "immoral" Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #146
Well it depends. Everyone's got their own social standards. alp227 Mar 2013 #152
don't get me started on what I hear working all night in tech Skittles Mar 2013 #112
Joan of Kardashian is more like it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2013 #67
Indeed. theKed Mar 2013 #74
Well if women are going to make dick jokes and then try to get men fired for doing the same... dkf Mar 2013 #14
I thought this was a good piece...posted from the thread you referenced. dkf Mar 2013 #16
She employed a bullying tactic and the social media genie turned on her. JVS Mar 2013 #17
yup. agreed La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #32
One thing that I'm curious about, as someone who doesn't use Twitter and has petronius Mar 2013 #23
honestly i dont get donglegate. i think public shaming for a private joke La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #34
Defending what she did is even crazier. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #93
i think i would defend it, if they were making genuinely hateful comments La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #103
Yeah, or if woman were part of the conversation and UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #115
I'm pretty sure she made some penis jokes at the same conference The Second Stone Mar 2013 #35
Most likely the tweet was sent to a trusted friend. alp227 Mar 2013 #54
the tweet was sent to her 10's of thousands of twitter followers. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #151
What you've described is a text message The Second Stone Mar 2013 #169
My girlfriend can identify about half-a-dozen reasons why there aren't more women in high tech, Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2013 #46
she has a pattern of doing this, over and over again. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #48
CORRECT Skittles Mar 2013 #86
The real villain in this is the manager who wouldn't do his job Warpy Mar 2013 #47
Is it okay to post peoples' pictures on the internet without their consent, or isn't it? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #49
I do it all the time. We cheer it all the time here. Recursion Mar 2013 #101
If you are at a protest holding a sign, you are by definition asking for public attention. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #136
so true. nt La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #72
I am sure that's a part of it Nevernose Mar 2013 #58
Geez, as with anything, people should pick their battles wisely Vinnie From Indy Mar 2013 #62
i tend to agree. La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #69
Again: he has a kickstarter, she has death and rape threats Recursion Mar 2013 #64
Your point is well taken BainsBane Mar 2013 #70
yes, so that is clearly outrageous. the death and rape threats La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #71
Curious... theKed Mar 2013 #73
Others did Recursion Mar 2013 #75
Thanks. theKed Mar 2013 #79
No accusations? BainsBane Mar 2013 #90
shoo, stalker. theKed Mar 2013 #99
that was my point BainsBane Mar 2013 #107
Furthermore, theKed Mar 2013 #108
there was nothing vanity like about it. BainsBane Mar 2013 #119
Actually, I don't advocate taking the discussions out of my sight (not site) theKed Mar 2013 #123
No? Nothing to say about that? theKed Mar 2013 #131
for heaven's sake BainsBane Mar 2013 #133
Actually theKed Mar 2013 #134
Because she picked the shittiest venue to resolve a conflict and the inhabitants... JVS Mar 2013 #88
That she was stupid in putting the thing on Twitter is clear BainsBane Mar 2013 #89
That point is invalid because here on DU she didn't get threats or hatred. JVS Mar 2013 #92
the responses here exemplify perfectly BainsBane Mar 2013 #95
only if you dismiss disapproval for her actions as sexism JVS Mar 2013 #97
If you don't agree with everything every woman does UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #102
when people automatically blame a woman BainsBane Mar 2013 #106
And you can determine if she's been given no consideration how? JVS Mar 2013 #109
by reading the responses BainsBane Mar 2013 #110
and back to post 97 we go JVS Mar 2013 #114
not necessarily BainsBane Mar 2013 #120
You said yourself she was wrong in the way she handled it. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #141
Where is that Kickstarter link you speak of? 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #98
Dongle jokes are not as bad as marketing types refering to engineers as nerds, geeks and techies FarCenter Mar 2013 #116
nerd is nothing like the N-word. nt La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #117
It is when technically clueless twenty something marketing blondes apply it to computer scientists FarCenter Mar 2013 #121
no, it's not. as far as i know computer scientists have never been lynched La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #122
OK, but they are still hugely insulting terms, and should never be used in a professional setting. FarCenter Mar 2013 #125
yeah being called fat is hugely insulting but its nothing like a racially loaded word La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #127
My better half is an engineer. MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #128
A guy in my neighborhood says he got mugged BainsBane Mar 2013 #153
The OP doesn't claim a single mugging MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #162
If one of these guys had grabbed her ass, asked her for sex, commented on her body, Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #132
that would be assault BainsBane Mar 2013 #161
i'm not sure that 'it was the right thing to do' to tweet a pic. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #145
This message was self-deleted by its author Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2013 #155
In my long career, I have witnessed and been subjected to quite a bit of Live and Learn Mar 2013 #156
Heaven help her if she ever gets a job with Oscar Meyer. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #157
I work in tech.. sendero Mar 2013 #160
My girlfriend takes it a step further, Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2013 #163
There's no indication that Ms Richards had a difficult teen or early 20's career FarCenter Mar 2013 #168
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