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Warpy

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82. Same here until we knew each other much better.

Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:32 PM

Mar 2013

It's better to put it right on the table, literally, that we're not for sale, especially not for a dinner and/or some sort of entertainment.

It would be nice if more of them cared for the pleasure of our company but we're not there yet.

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Men expect sex after expensive dinner dates: study [View all] The Straight Story Mar 2013 OP

that would be one of four reasons i never allowed a man to buy me dinner. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #1

same here musette_sf Mar 2013 #41

What are the other three? intheflow Mar 2013 #61

How about... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #80

that was progressive /nt demwing Mar 2013 #104

Go and read her other posts from anywhere. It's accurate. Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #106

only to the most insecure of men. many more men recognize that i see them in a way seabeyond Mar 2013 #107

There is a difference between challenging various culture mores that need to be changed and flat Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #114

really? you have never heard men "joke" that a woman gets paid for sex, one way or another? seabeyond Mar 2013 #117

See above, I added more. Insulting you? Have you looked at the swath of vitriol you Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #119

and again, "bitterness"? more personal insult that you have no knowledge and yet, not addressing seabeyond Mar 2013 #120

Project much? Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #121

ah come one. you can do better than that. that does not even make sense. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #136

god forbid Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #150

The moment you say, "you catch more flies with honey" or "if you took a softer tone" Squinch Mar 2013 #157

yeah SmileyRose Mar 2013 #158

I could have said delusional ranting. But I thought I'd be polite. Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #190

Oh. It's a shame you weren't able to achieve that, then. Maybe if you practice more? Squinch Mar 2013 #193

Your attempts at sarcasm really needs work Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #195

Or maybe practice won't help you. But we all still hold onto the hope! Have a lovely day. Squinch Mar 2013 #196

Ooo..I suppose that was an attempt... right? Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #197

Rec. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #187

PATRIARCHY is the chervilant Mar 2013 #188

to tell SOME men not to treat or think of us as prostitutes is to hate men. dontcha know. seabeyond Mar 2013 #189

And, still, chervilant Mar 2013 #194

Do you remember the post a short while back Squinch Mar 2013 #198

omg this is DU not elehhhhna Mar 2013 #208

Nuff said, LOL southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #151

Yes, because all men are knuckle-dragging Neanderthals who want to Arkana Mar 2013 #202

generally i made as much if not more, i never take from anyone. i do not like "owing" people, seabeyond Mar 2013 #99

Didn't really answer my question but intheflow Mar 2013 #122

you asked what the other three were. seabeyond Mar 2013 #138

Oh, sorry. intheflow Mar 2013 #144

Same here until we knew each other much better. Warpy Mar 2013 #82

If you're shelling 100 pounds on a first date, you're doing something wrong Xipe Totec Mar 2013 #2

100 pounds in London or 100 dollars in Manhattan is common for dinner for two at a restaurant with stevenleser Mar 2013 #108

As I said, if you're shelling 100 bucks on a first date you're doing it wrong Xipe Totec Mar 2013 #127

Super misleading headline. TroglodyteScholar Mar 2013 #3

So 4 out of 5 don't expect it whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #4

It is the original headline and I look at it this way The Straight Story Mar 2013 #6

So you used that headline for the same reason your source did. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #24

No, wish folks would read my other ops more - I try to use original headlines The Straight Story Mar 2013 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author markiv Mar 2013 #8

good point treestar Mar 2013 #64

Far too many OP's start with bullshit headlines BeyondGeography Mar 2013 #102

I know a few DUers who tend to characterize a small percentage of the group hughee99 Mar 2013 #140

If it's a basket of riblets at Applebee's, you're safe, ladies. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #5

Doesn't work that way with my wife. yourout Mar 2013 #7

Huge turn-off FreeJoe Mar 2013 #46

There would be a difference between married and dating. LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #125

I know what you mean... PCIntern Mar 2013 #47

^DUzy alert, folks!^ PotatoChip Mar 2013 #118

Light bulb.......lol. I am a little slow tonight. yourout Mar 2013 #141

Sorry-this comes off as really kinda clueless and demeaning. WCLinolVir Mar 2013 #184

The last time she sprung for steak, I knew I didn't have to make the first move. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #204

I'm poor so... white castle it is =p n/t JesterCS Mar 2013 #58

mmmm I LOVE White Castle Skittles Mar 2013 #93

If it's your wife, you're not dropping your money on her--you're dropping money that belongs... Moonwalk Mar 2013 #85

I have better luck getting her interested by doing the dishes. yourout Mar 2013 #86

I don't believe I've ever taken someone to dinner at an MineralMan Mar 2013 #9

Momma always taught me get the sex first and pay/buy dinner later The Straight Story Mar 2013 #10

Well, I've never had the money available for first dates MineralMan Mar 2013 #14

Smart Momma! If it takes money to get the sex, it ain't worth it IMO. RKP5637 Mar 2013 #76

Me neither. Because when I met my wife I had pretty much no money, Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #12

Yes, that's always an issue, especially for young folks. MineralMan Mar 2013 #20

Just another reason why you're my kinda guy, MinMan Hekate Mar 2013 #69

are you rubbing your hands with glee at the possible Whisp Mar 2013 #11

Ah well, such is not my fault The Straight Story Mar 2013 #15

Wow. You started a thread about mosques being burned down, and nobody replied? Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #17

Probably because they left the last two churches there: The Straight Story Mar 2013 #19

I posted about pubic grooming once. I think there were some 600 replies. Scuba Mar 2013 #33

I see it a little differently. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #16

Sounds just like hiring a prostitute to me. ananda Mar 2013 #13

yes. and many times, yes often, we have had men say on du... pay for it one way or another. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #18

One in five men said that he “expects” sex if he spends more than 100 pounds Zorra Mar 2013 #21

If a women feels obliged to have sex after an expensive dinner... Auntie Bush Mar 2013 #22

The difference is that the prostitute can spend the money on whatever she wants... Moonwalk Mar 2013 #87

Proves a woman is better off being a prostitute than an expensive dinner date. Auntie Bush Mar 2013 #131

Stop Gender discrimination in the Workplace, shatter the glass ceiling, pay men and women equally Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #23

Well, you are getting your wish for equal pay. RC Mar 2013 #28

I couldn't do it Ter Mar 2013 #35

you echo me exactly Skittles Mar 2013 #94

They needed a study for this? Initech Mar 2013 #26

How horrible! 99Forever Mar 2013 #27

yes. how men that think "all women are whores one way or another" justifies their little joke seabeyond Mar 2013 #30

What the.. 99Forever Mar 2013 #32

You really don't understand what she meant by that? Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #70

Maybe they're processing... very very slowly... the pace is glacial... Squinch Mar 2013 #173

It's amazing how knuckle dragging woman haters can be grouped with progressives. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #175

I like the way Squinch Mar 2013 #178

I am often ashamed to be a man. And by often I mean all the time. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #180

No, don't do that. Squinch Mar 2013 #182

ha seabeyond Mar 2013 #185

Well, you know you are one of the brave souls, right? Squinch Mar 2013 #186

i especially appreciated the last paragraph. seabeyond Mar 2013 #183

You have serious issues. Wow. Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #62

That is a correct (albeit WAY understated) assessment. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #68

Well, I try to be polite. To a point. :) Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #71

Your restraint is remarkable. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #72

My Kendo sensei required us to show good form, both on the sparring floor and off. It sort of stuck Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #74

Wow. You got a whole little bro pack really upset when you pointed out the obvious to them. Squinch Mar 2013 #172

really, huh. hear this little joke for decades. but on du, the bros are all huh???? lol. seabeyond Mar 2013 #174

The problem is the word "expects" gollygee Mar 2013 #50

Gimme a freakin' break... 99Forever Mar 2013 #54

How is that relevant? gollygee Mar 2013 #56

That's the old fashioned way treestar Mar 2013 #65

Ah, I see. So, it's OK to spend a lot of money to get women MineralMan Mar 2013 #110

Make stupid assumptions much? 99Forever Mar 2013 #111

No. MineralMan Mar 2013 #112

Perfect 99Forever Mar 2013 #113

You forgot to say "much". Iggo Mar 2013 #205

Lol! Squinch Mar 2013 #209

I'd call other people self-righteous too... LanternWaste Mar 2013 #115

I wonder if theKed Mar 2013 #29

Breaking news flash! Botany Mar 2013 #31

It's the word "expects" gollygee Mar 2013 #51

Breaking news flash! Botany Mar 2013 #59

It isn't about whether someone is "looking forward" to sex either gollygee Mar 2013 #75

"Do you understand the difference?" Botany Mar 2013 #88

You're still not getting the entitlement issue gollygee Mar 2013 #98

I understand what entitled means ..... I got a 2.3 from Ohio U Botany Mar 2013 #100

Then why do you keep replying about stuff other than entitlement? gollygee Mar 2013 #103

Because this is like a big cat toy Botany Mar 2013 #109

Awww! That doggie is adorable. smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #143

Cute doggie! smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #142

Fine ..... get the pizza, salad, and wine btw ..... Botany Mar 2013 #148

Sure, no problem. But I could do without you. smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #149

Fine by me Botany Mar 2013 #164

Is HOPING FOR the same as "expecting"? n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #34

I don't think just hoping for would be a story gollygee Mar 2013 #52

see, and I expect a good meal after providing my usual top notch sexual experience. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #147

I am assuming that you, like me, have been on the receiving end of this and we understand the next Squinch Mar 2013 #177

Back in the day I never thought I needed to tularetom Mar 2013 #36

My better half insisted on paying for herself on our first date MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #37

And some men expect sex after taking their dates to the drive-thru at McDonalds. edbermac Mar 2013 #38

+1 quaker bill Mar 2013 #96

if I spent that much for food olddots Mar 2013 #39

DING DING DING WE have a WINNAH!!!!! cliffordu Mar 2013 #40

Expensive meals are an effective strategy for sex LittleBlue Mar 2013 #42

we see which men would have voted that ya, spend money on a date, she owes ya. got it. no surprise seabeyond Mar 2013 #43

Does "one in five" really entitle the broad use of "men" in the headline? Matariki Mar 2013 #44

You have to consider the source (the OP). n/t flvegan Mar 2013 #45

The source is The Hindustan Times. (?!!) Demoiselle Mar 2013 #49

It wasn't a very well worded headline gollygee Mar 2013 #53

Just give me the money. Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #48

LOL. polly7 Mar 2013 #63

+1 LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #97

A minority of men expect sex after dropping two bills on dinner. Iggo Mar 2013 #55

Kind of tough to rationalize it, much better to trivialize it instead LanternWaste Mar 2013 #123

The possibility that 20% of men ever feel *entitled* to sex is a problem. antigone382 Mar 2013 #156

I'm also disappointed it's not five out of five. Iggo Mar 2013 #160

agree. AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #161

There is the point right there. I think many of the men here who are brushing this off are not Squinch Mar 2013 #179

Yes, and chervilant Mar 2013 #192

Duh. aquart Mar 2013 #57

As it has been for milllenia GETPLANING Mar 2013 #60

I find that to be age dependent...after an expensive dinner most men I know HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #66

The only thing I expect after an expensive dinner date is to expect to have to use the men's room. goodthanksandyou Mar 2013 #67

Ha, I had a date who got upset when I wouldn't go to bed with him on our one and only date Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #73

I can see why it was your one and only, and what a jerk. polly7 Mar 2013 #81

Well, there are customary norms. Deep13 Mar 2013 #77

Expecting is nothing like *getting* Raine1967 Mar 2013 #78

Right. Expectations and disappointment are facts of life. nt Deep13 Mar 2013 #139

Men expect a lot of things they no right to expect. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #79

I wonder... Mike Nelson Mar 2013 #83

I take all my first dates to the BK Lounge (Burger King). bluedigger Mar 2013 #84

Well, yes, of course. Except sometimes, it's going to be by yourself. n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #89

not me arely staircase Mar 2013 #90

My experience is that they expect sex no matter what they spend. Cleita Mar 2013 #91

Along with a not insignificant number temporary311 Mar 2013 #133

IME you and Cleita are right. nt raccoon Mar 2013 #137

I've never spent a hundred bucks on a meal for me and some girl madokie Mar 2013 #92

That's right. I usually figure that when she spends that much on me, she's after me lucky charms. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #95

Ya gotta love this light thread reaches 100 responses! Don't know what it means. graham4anything Mar 2013 #101

I enjoy the system my girlfriend and I have we alternate who pays it's worked for 5 years Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #105

The only think I expect after an expensive dinner is a wee bit of heart-burn LanternWaste Mar 2013 #116

Guys who drop that kind of cash with the expectation of sex are idiots and are pretty lazy MrScorpio Mar 2013 #124

+1, this "entitled to sex" mentality is NOT healthy sexuality. alp227 Mar 2013 #154

Sex is better on an empty stomach Auggie Mar 2013 #126

+1 Go Vols Mar 2013 #146

Speak for yourself friend. You can also get some pretty nasty STDs southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #152

How can empty stomach sex lead to STDs? Auggie Mar 2013 #166

Empty stomach or not and no matter how hard you try having many partners southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #167

Thank you, southernyankeebelle ... Auggie Mar 2013 #169

your welcome. Sometimes there is a bigger picture. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #171

I cooked dinner for my boyfriend's birthday last night and spent £100 on it. sibelian Mar 2013 #128

spent much more than that--it was called a wedding reception--and i did have some expectations dembotoz Mar 2013 #129

So only 1 in 5 men are cads as measured this way? yellowcanine Mar 2013 #130

Ah, this I agree with. Statistics & Karma. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #206

I guess we should be pleased that 80% of men DON'T expect sex, no matter how much they spend. kdmorris Mar 2013 #132

The headline "4 out of 5 men are decent enough blokes" temporary311 Mar 2013 #134

No, it probably wouldn't kdmorris Mar 2013 #135

I dunno, I usually feel a little bloated after a spiced ham or what have you... Dr Fate Mar 2013 #145

Stupid me I've been putting out everytime a chick buys me a drink. Exultant Democracy Mar 2013 #153

Always insist on sex first. JVS Mar 2013 #155

I definitely expect it first. That way you can find out if you really like them enough cbdo2007 Mar 2013 #159

DURING Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #163

Does 'expect' mean 'feel entitled to' or 'anticipate'? RedCappedBandit Mar 2013 #162

The choice of the word 'expect'... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #165

Which is why I pay. jessie04 Mar 2013 #168

Women expect more expensive things after expensive dinner dates: study cbdo2007 Mar 2013 #170

Study: Expensive demands narrative is lame Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #176

Sounds like you are Squinch Mar 2013 #201

In other news.... SoCalNative Mar 2013 #181

Mr. Rathbone, it's time for your close-up slackmaster Mar 2013 #191

I would feel just terrible if I thought ... dawg Mar 2013 #199

.... seabeyond Mar 2013 #200

Personally, I expect sex DURING the meal. Screw this "after dinner" crap. Arkana Mar 2013 #203

You know what I expect? Nothing Rex Mar 2013 #207

Um, yeah...who the hell spends the equivalent of $150 on dinner?? Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #210

Well, maybe a blow job sfpcjock Mar 2013 #211