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deutsey

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22. Thank you
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 01:44 PM
Apr 2013


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/06/yes-bush-v-gore-did-steal-the-election.html

The general topic of wildly partisan Supreme Court rulings is on everybody’s mind right now for some reason. The Washington Examiner’s Tim Carney wants everybody to know that the Supreme Court really, truly did not hand the presidential election to George W. Bush. “You can disagree with the ruling in Bush v. Gore,” writes Carney, “but you can’t honestly argue that it decided the election.”

Well, yes, you can. In fact we know nearly for certain that the recount stopped by the Supreme Court would have given Gore the lead. (Of course, it’s entirely possible that the Republican-controlled Florida legislature would have simply overridden the results of the count and handed the state to Bush, as it threatened to do.) But Carney is repeating a common misconception.

The myth that Bush would have won had the recount proceeded dates back to a recount conducted by a consortium of newspapers that examined the ballots. The consortium found that “If all the ballots had been reviewed under any of seven single standards, and combined with the results of an examination of overvotes, Mr. Gore would have won, by a very narrow margin.” But the newspapers decided that this was not how the counties would have actually tabulated the votes. By the variable standards they would have used, the papers reported, Bush would have prevailed. Thus the national news reported a slew of headlines asserting that Bush would have prevailed.

The conclusion was erroneous. The newspapers assumed that the counties would only have looked at “undervotes” — ballots that did not register any votes for president — and ignored “overvotes” — ballots that registered more than one vote for president. An overvote would be a ballot in which the machine mistakenly picked up a second vote for president, or in which a voter both marked a box and wrote in the name of the same candidate. A hand recount in which an examiner is judging the “intent of the voter” would turn those ballots that were originally discarded into countable votes.

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Geez: This picture [View all] Dpm12 Apr 2013 OP
George W Bush was my President, even though I did every thing I could to defeat him twice. bluestate10 Apr 2013 #1
For everyone of these you can find 100 of racists pictures of our current president. busterbrown Apr 2013 #3
I will have to respectively disagree with you.. Ghost in the Machine Apr 2013 #6
Al Gore actually won Florida Politicalboi Apr 2013 #7
Thank you deutsey Apr 2013 #22
Are you serious? You think King George actually WON the 2000 election?? LOL!! nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #11
Bush was a pResident..illegally put into office. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #19
I never thought of him that way, either n/t deutsey Apr 2013 #24
You hate the left more than you oppose the right, I think. Marr Apr 2013 #26
Ralph Nader didn't lose Gore the election. Geez. Apophis Apr 2013 #30
As we know the 2000 election was stolen.... peace13 Apr 2013 #32
not according to john bolton, who said that bush was the president of ellenfl Apr 2013 #40
What about it? Ghost in the Machine Apr 2013 #2
Geez what? EOTE Apr 2013 #4
Nothing like a post-and-run to stir up the shit. GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #41
Pardon me, but Skidmore Apr 2013 #5
And....so? Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #8
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Sorry. I...I forgot myself for a moment. Please, forgive me. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #14
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I blame Gresham's Law. All the crappy trolls displaced the clever ones. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #21
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Which of course as we all know, leads to homosexual marraige Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #27
Probably made in China. nt EOTE Apr 2013 #42
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I saw something similar in DC while participating in a march Oilwellian Apr 2013 #31
So what? Jazzgirl Apr 2013 #12
Stars? 4Q2u2 Apr 2013 #25
Well, Dumbya said to "Bring it on" and they did. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #13
What about it? The "coffin"? or The picture of the Selected One? Which is more offensive? nt patrice Apr 2013 #15
My gratitude to those protesters. Scuba Apr 2013 #16
I remember that day arcane1 Apr 2013 #18
Good Picture! Patriot Americans. SalviaBlue Apr 2013 #20
Drive post or what? 99Forever Apr 2013 #28
Try Harder HangOnKids Apr 2013 #29
Great photo! JaneyVee Apr 2013 #33
I'm proud of that crowd. bravenak Apr 2013 #34
You can catch more flies with honey. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #35
Odd Post HangOnKids Apr 2013 #39
it chaps my hide that the RW has the gall to imply Obama stole the Presidency librechik Apr 2013 #36
3,337,194 bytes does seem excessive for an image in a DU post. ( n/t ) Make7 Apr 2013 #37
What about it? Is it from the 2005 protest? sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #38
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