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In reply to the discussion: The Guns of the Brothers Tsarnaev [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)32. And yet "(t)rying to pigeonhole a particular weapon based on trivial technical minutia"...
is the very heart of the assault weapon ban YOU touted here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2540588
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-summary
What the bill does:
The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:
All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.
All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:
All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.
All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Just like terrorism watch lists were bad:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3031131#3032492
baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:31 PM
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25. People are harassed, investigated & arrested for their political beliefs.
Held anonymously without charge, trial, or communication with the outside world.
The President's press secretary says that people should watch what they say, or else - and the press is too afraid to say anything.
People are prevented from traveling freely because they are on a gov't list.
Response to Original message
25. People are harassed, investigated & arrested for their political beliefs.
Held anonymously without charge, trial, or communication with the outside world.
The President's press secretary says that people should watch what they say, or else - and the press is too afraid to say anything.
People are prevented from traveling freely because they are on a gov't list.
until they became good when guns entered into the discussion:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php/www.fas.usda.gov/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x431371#431380
baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 03:18 PM
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4. The TSA's No-Fly list is entirely different than the FBI's Terrorist Watch List.
Trying to conflate the two is RW propaganda.
Response to Reply #2
4. The TSA's No-Fly list is entirely different than the FBI's Terrorist Watch List.
Trying to conflate the two is RW propaganda.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/nsb/tsc/tsc_faqs
Does TSAs Secure Flight program have anything to do with the TSDB?
Secure Flight is the U.S. Government-mandated program responsible for matching passenger information against the government watch list. Secure Flight conducts consistent watch list matching against TSDB entries for flights into, and out of, and within the U.S. As with all government programs that screen for terrorists, TSC provides the Secure Flight program support to ensure terrorist identity matches are correct.
Secure Flight is the U.S. Government-mandated program responsible for matching passenger information against the government watch list. Secure Flight conducts consistent watch list matching against TSDB entries for flights into, and out of, and within the U.S. As with all government programs that screen for terrorists, TSC provides the Secure Flight program support to ensure terrorist identity matches are correct.
Checking your posts for revisionism and inaccuracy takes a bit of work, but is quite illustrative
of the attitude amongst you lot here...
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So the "military rifle like an M4" was full-auto? That is the modern standard for military use.
Eleanors38
Apr 2013
#2
But you seem to obsess on "military" type; you comment on that. So I'm running it by you.
Eleanors38
Apr 2013
#6
It's actually: which news story: this news story, that news story, some other?
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2013
#58
And yet "(t)rying to pigeonhole a particular weapon based on trivial technical minutia"...
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2013
#32
Some police officers have a rifle in the car instead of a shotgun. They might have stolen that. nt
rrneck
Apr 2013
#9
The second story is pretty clear that they got zero guns from Officer Collier
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2013
#10
If it were a true 'M4' (full auto), that would tend to implicate a police officer's patrol rifle.
X_Digger
Apr 2013
#22
All the reports I read said 200 rounds were fired during the firefight, by everyone involved.
Common Sense Party
Apr 2013
#26
if you're talking about during the car/suv incident, it sure didn't sound like it.
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#30
I understand. That was what prompted this discussion (I think). One thing for sure:
Eleanors38
Apr 2013
#64
I agree with you. I wonder how much longer the Mods are going to allow this..
Eleanors38
Apr 2013
#63
The local news (WBZ) reported that this evening, as well--that he was unarmed, at
MADem
Apr 2013
#85
A number of news reports today pretty much confirm the one-gun theory
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2013
#88
Well, mystery seemingly solved here: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had no gun at all (in the boat)
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2013
#80