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35. ...and you really believe Wall Street is a nice place to live?

Wed May 1, 2013, 11:01 AM

May 2013

Wall Street isn't a slum or a dive, but why would you want to live there? Just to be able to walk to the office?

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The Brutal Suppression Of OWS Proves That The Rich & Business Will Tolerate No Dissent [View all] TheMastersNemesis May 2013 OP

"DOJ and local officials continue to hunt down anyone associated or even meeting under OWS banner. " geek tragedy May 2013 #1

You must have missed the brutal attacks on peaceful protesters, the near murder of two sabrina 1 May 2013 #4

Do you believe the the Obama DOJ is trying to "hunt down anyone associated with OWS?" geek tragedy May 2013 #5

Another DUer who follows Alex Jones? Some advice, seek out reliable sources if you sabrina 1 May 2013 #7

Contrary to a lot of myth-making on the paranoid left, there has been no evidence geek tragedy May 2013 #8

You're not part of the 'left'? Why are you here then? sabrina 1 May 2013 #11

I am not part of the "paranoid left." geek tragedy May 2013 #12

Really? I get the impression, mostly from what you write, that you have unfounded fears of sabrina 1 May 2013 #16

I have no fear of Democrats who are outspoken about the many serious problems geek tragedy May 2013 #18

The paranoid right is and always has been wrong about everything. The 'paranoid left' oth, is sabrina 1 May 2013 #41

Repeating your beliefs as unassailable facts does not make them so. geek tragedy May 2013 #56

OWS is stronger than ever, now winning every battle in court, succeeding in what our government sabrina 1 May 2013 #63

"facts are facts" geek tragedy May 2013 #68

I haven't seen you offer anything other than your own opinion. And attacks on the 'left'. sabrina 1 May 2013 #71

I have made a factual claim--that there exists no proof geek tragedy May 2013 #73

You stated an opinion, that is not a factual claim. I saw a Brontosaurus, and a Tryrannosaurus sabrina 1 May 2013 #84

It is a factual claim. geek tragedy May 2013 #85

When you say "there is no proof" zeemike May 2013 #99

There has been no such evidence produced. geek tragedy May 2013 #100

No such evidence produced or zeemike May 2013 #103

Alex Jones has what he thinks is evidence that Boston was a false flag. geek tragedy May 2013 #105

And this is not a single piece of evidence? zeemike May 2013 #107

A blog post describing documents is not evidence. geek tragedy May 2013 #109

See...with that power to impeach you can call it nothing zeemike May 2013 #118

I did check it out. geek tragedy May 2013 #123

So you do admit there is evidence then zeemike May 2013 #124

What evidence there is points in the opposite direction. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #126

+ 1000 JEB May 2013 #45

Climb back in your denial bubble. It's hard to recognize proof with your fingers in you ears and rhett o rick May 2013 #144

I apologize for living outside your echo chamber. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #145

The Gerrymandering is pretty awful - both sides engage in it of course el_bryanto May 2013 #2

Looks like if you are a real terrorist you can't get your name on a no-fly list. But if you sabrina 1 May 2013 #3

There are DUers that claim the term "police state" is not appropriate mick063 May 2013 #6

The "DHS crushed OWS" stuff is dumber than most stuff Alex Jones says. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #9

+1 n/t FSogol May 2013 #10

Seriously, you need to stop following Alex Jones. sabrina 1 May 2013 #13

Nah, it's others who need to stop emulating him. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #14

Yes I agree. They need to start facing reality and facts rather than living in a state of denial. sabrina 1 May 2013 #42

Yes. They should read the actual FOIA documents re: OWS geek tragedy May 2013 #61

Absolutely. This moronic story has been going on for almost two years now Number23 May 2013 #131

Or, maybe Newest Reality May 2013 #62

The standards of evidence and logic between geek tragedy May 2013 #69

Ah, well that is debatable when you put it that way. Newest Reality May 2013 #93

I've seen the documents. geek tragedy May 2013 #96

We also have the type of brutalization of Americans that we have never seen before by AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #38

" We've never seen so much police brutality in our country." ? jtuck004 May 2013 #90

And... loyalsister May 2013 #92

In a literal sense, "we" have not. Our predecessors have, but "we" have not. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #97

Okay, if one wants to limit it to a self-serving description of how they have had it so jtuck004 May 2013 #102

Well, I'm a former steelworker. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #114

At least I didn't use the word "we" without knowing what I was talking about. jtuck004 May 2013 #116

You already admitted at #102 that, at most, you "have read, seen pictures, and spoken with people AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #117

Those words remind me of that Obi Wan Baloney from that kid's movie, jtuck004 May 2013 #152

It was my impression that they needed dismantling Coyotl May 2013 #15

And that surprises you? zeemike May 2013 #37

Democrats wouldn't do it either. It has always been experience as a democrat that our party sabrina 1 May 2013 #60

And some went there with the intent to find fault. zeemike May 2013 #66

Yes, they did, they were generally pretty obvious. I remember a more 'famous' example of that sabrina 1 May 2013 #70

Well, how dare those homeless people find a place to 'hang'. OWS fed the homeless, provided sabrina 1 May 2013 #44

Homeless are citizens too. JEB May 2013 #46

Well, they'll tolerate dissent as long as ... ananda May 2013 #17

OWS did it to themselves. randome May 2013 #19

That is an EXCELLENT article, but I wouldn't say that Occupy destroyed themselves; factsarenotfair May 2013 #64

I'm not really sure you understand what "brutal suppression" is. MineralMan May 2013 #20

I'm sure those who ended up nearly dead, including Iraq veterans, have a fairly good idea of what sabrina 1 May 2013 #47

Is that a threat? JEB May 2013 #48

How would that be a threat? MineralMan May 2013 #50

Not brutal enough for your tastes. JEB May 2013 #53

Stuff & Nonsense! MineralMan May 2013 #54

Too brutal, not brutal enough or just right. Your choice. JEB May 2013 #59

It was surreal to watch middle class cops beating middle class protesters while the rich JaneyVee May 2013 #21

Rich people don't live around Wall Street badtoworse May 2013 #24

The median income for the Wall St area is $188,000/yr. JaneyVee May 2013 #25

That's not even close to rich by Wall Street standards. badtoworse May 2013 #26

The highest median state income in America is $70,000. Wall St almost triples that. JaneyVee May 2013 #29

You don't live in or near New York City do you? badtoworse May 2013 #31

I live on 12th street in Manhattan. JaneyVee May 2013 #33

...and you really believe Wall Street is a nice place to live? badtoworse May 2013 #35

Who said the morons on the balcony lived there? They party there, that doesn't mean they live sabrina 1 May 2013 #51

Read Post No. 21. Seemed like a reasonable assumption to me. badtoworse May 2013 #72

Renting an apartment in NY can take up to half of that. randome May 2013 #27

I know I live in Manhattan. It can be expensive. But you save money in other ways. JaneyVee May 2013 #32

$188k household income is not rich in NYC. geek tragedy May 2013 #28

This is the MEDIAN income. It means there are some people making $25Million. JaneyVee May 2013 #30

There are probably some making ten times that badtoworse May 2013 #34

Yes, with 50% of households making that much or less. geek tragedy May 2013 #36

The median income for America is about $40,000, that includes rich & poor. Do you JaneyVee May 2013 #40

High income with high expenses is often not wealthy. geek tragedy May 2013 #52

someone making 25 million in NYC lives on Central Park or somewhere w/river view not in Wall Street. KittyWampus May 2013 #49

No one said the cocktail partiers lived on Wall St. They were partying on Wall St. when they sabrina 1 May 2013 #65

The rich, of course, make most of their money from capital gains. The $188,000/yr figure AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #39

Maybe camping in public parks and crapping in the streets was the real problem. badtoworse May 2013 #22

i think was the point entirely.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #140

From what I could see, the OWS people behaved like they were the only ones with rights. badtoworse May 2013 #142

Things might be different if we had tens of thousands in the streets.... Hotler May 2013 #23

Don't just blame the GOP for gerrymandering. harmonicon May 2013 #43

Um perhaps you haven't noticed Savannahmann May 2013 #55

Derp. geek tragedy May 2013 #58

You are correct, that is because many progressives have left so it seems like there are more of sabrina 1 May 2013 #67

got milk? datasuspect May 2013 #77

LOL Savannahmann May 2013 #86

they should not tolerate dissent for the sake of dissent hfojvt May 2013 #57

Occupy went over your head nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #80

Sorry to say, but Occupy was a party in the park, and not only was DOJ not interested, but Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #74

...and I thought I was hard on them. badtoworse May 2013 #75

The "bong hits and bongos" crowd didn't resonate with most working Americans. Throd May 2013 #79

That's fair badtoworse May 2013 #81

And the claims of sexual assault in the park didn't do much to endear the "movement" either. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #108

And by the same token.... zeemike May 2013 #76

Occupy was the fucking Tea Party. Ron Paul? Give me a fucking break. Fake assed libertarian..... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #89

I was not comparing the teal party to Occupy. zeemike May 2013 #91

You should've given the spiel to the Occupier assholes who boo'd John Lewis off the stage. Loyalty Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #94

Well so then you got me there zeemike May 2013 #98

I guess the difference between us is, I never considered OWS as "our own", and neither did they. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #104

"I've seen more interesting movements in my own bathroom." badtoworse May 2013 #111

Have at it! I'm just amazed that anyone still thinks OWS is relevant outside the minds of OWS! Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #112

Anyone with an elementary understanding of the political process could have predicted what happened badtoworse May 2013 #113

Concise & to the point. "The novelty wore off". Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #115

You just killed this thread. Killed it dead Number23 May 2013 #132

They are not dealing with the post mortem in a realistic way. Much like Alex Jones, they blame..... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #134

It definitely didn't appear to resonate with many people Number23 May 2013 #137

"we hate capitalism" and "we love weed". That definitely is not the foundation for...... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #143

When it comes to big $$$$$ and any infringement thereof, IMO, D=R=I. "We the RKP5637 May 2013 #78

Yet there are 1000s of anti-govermental and anti-Democratic posts on the open internet graham4anything May 2013 #82

It's not gone nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #83

right marions ghost May 2013 #110

Occupy their homes WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2013 #87

I like it too. Laelth May 2013 #128

Occupiers Prevail Over Infiltrators, Unconstitutional Ordinances, Vindictive DAs G_j May 2013 #88

^^^^ this ^^^^ BelgianMadCow May 2013 #120

it is G_j May 2013 #125

what especially strikes me is how limited the debate has become BelgianMadCow May 2013 #130

The National Lawyers Guild G_j May 2013 #135

Phew. I hadn't come of age really at the time of Seattle, BelgianMadCow May 2013 #136

The criminal "justice" system as punishment... Agony May 2013 #146

it would appear fabricating charges G_j May 2013 #147

If people want to debate the issue, Newest Reality May 2013 #95

How do you explain the May Day parade in Manhattan today? brooklynite May 2013 #101

Maybe because it was a "one of" type of event...... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #122

The OP opined that "NO DISSENT" was allowed. brooklynite May 2013 #138

Well you just go ahead and think that....... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #149

The interference targets were not the "bosses" brooklynite May 2013 #151

No... i'm pretty sure if the Tea Party setup vagrant encampments on major thoroughfares Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2013 #106

And the reaction of DU to this Occupy thread proves how far DU has drifted BelgianMadCow May 2013 #119

There's a whole forum for Occupy b.s. You come into General, and you're gonna get dissent. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #127

That's okay BelgianMadCow May 2013 #129

Kinda like the American people were fooled by the teabaggers, for a while. Their popularity now.... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #133

K&R. nt DLevine May 2013 #121

K&R woo me with science May 2013 #139

i like many of you was truly inspired.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #141

Brutal supression is the new 40 damnedifIknow May 2013 #148

K & R !!! WillyT May 2013 #150

Well, you really got one of the authoritarian's attention. K&R. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #153

There Were A Lot Of Flaws With OWS That Pretty Much Doomed It. TheMastersNemesis May 2013 #154