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In reply to the discussion: HOW did a generation of young men's brains get f-ed up enough to produce this bigotry about Jolie? [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)219. Here's the script:
1) Post generalizing, obviously Broad-Brushing OP accusing Group Z of somehow being collectively responsible for some egregious outlying examples of bad random shit.
2) When members of that Group Z get understandably irritated by the broad brushing, respond with "but WHYYYYY do some people get so defensive about this?"
3) Use the "defensive" examples as further evidence of widespread problems in Group Z, which can be used for further broad brush slams.
4) Rinse, Repeat, sit back and enjoy the fun!
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HOW did a generation of young men's brains get f-ed up enough to produce this bigotry about Jolie? [View all]
alp227
May 2013
OP
pornified society of women. this is how the men and boys today see women and girls.
seabeyond
May 2013
#1
The OP and the post defending it both suggest that this behavior is the "normal".
EOTE
May 2013
#234
The problem is that the internet lets every moron broadcast to the planet in 120 characters.
Warren DeMontague
May 2013
#124
Agree to a certain degree. I also think the internet has caused more young men to objectify women.
cui bono
May 2013
#157
I disagree. I think using the lowest common denominator ugliness on twitter, or, say the comments
Warren DeMontague
May 2013
#186
wouldn't surprise me ... men who admired her ... beauty and body were upset or disturbed by the news
seabeyond
May 2013
#235
I don't know if it's smaller or larger. Either way, I doubt it is much different from years gone by.
Common Sense Party
May 2013
#121
Would you care to answer? How widespread do you think this attitude is?
Common Sense Party
May 2013
#149
there have been OP after OP of this mentality toward women and girls, on the net, in RL to the point
seabeyond
May 2013
#151
The contempt has always been there the difference is that the misogynists can gather in large
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#9
+1 the more power women gain the worse the hatred for women. It is not going to
LiberalLoner
May 2013
#27
thank you very much. i will self delete. i think i have been doing it for YEARS with these two.
seabeyond
May 2013
#174
Eh. It's the Anonymous Internet. People say insulting things when they can't be held to account.
randome
May 2013
#11
I think your generalization of young men is way to broad, based on these twitter comments...
yawnmaster
May 2013
#13
I have a very good idea of what beliefs young men hold...you apparently did not read that...
yawnmaster
May 2013
#220
35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape
seabeyond
May 2013
#236
Exactly! That is nowhere near "most" man as alp states above...also those surveys are...
yawnmaster
May 2013
#242
What it does show, to me, is that people/men are pretty fucked up, and always have been.
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#245
LOL I would agree some people are pretty fucked up...people in general, don't think so. eom
yawnmaster
May 2013
#246
there you go, cause it is better, not parity, it is the womans fault. there are always the asian
seabeyond
May 2013
#17
you think it is all the mens fault, yet only blame the wimmins. that is a realist?
seabeyond
May 2013
#19
warpy, this is not just about jolie. we hear it all the time. and to suggest it is broadbrush is
seabeyond
May 2013
#68
'Cuz wimmiz luv assholes!' Yup, that's how it read. You made me ROFLMAO. Thanks.
freshwest
May 2013
#227
of either gender. really has nothing to do with the Op or the person being replied to.
seabeyond
May 2013
#89
"Wel", I am a woman. I know lots of women very well and not one of them conforms to your
Starry Messenger
May 2013
#87
'won't date nice girls... thinks he deserves someone in his imagined higher bracket'
freshwest
May 2013
#228
We have a winner! And just 'getting laid' doesn't promise long-term happiness.
freshwest
May 2013
#230
How old are you? There is a grain of truth to what you said, but the world isn't that simple.
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#190
Your main point is the offensive nature of these posts. Agreed! But, for the love of God,
Buzz Clik
May 2013
#20
Yes. that is why I've never had a twitter account. I don't need to see hate and ugliness spewed 24/7
hlthe2b
May 2013
#32
+1. Both are ways of saying, I don't carea about you, I'm in it for myself alone.
freshwest
May 2013
#232
What it really does is enable us to see the garbage. I suspect it has always been there...
yawnmaster
May 2013
#225
This is so depressing these guys don't know the courage it takes for her to have done this.
Arcanetrance
May 2013
#31
Her career will not suffer, she's a huge star and producer and a powerful person
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#41
I was just thinking, who is the Millenial Bob Dylan, and "R Jeezy" immediately sprang to mind.
Warren DeMontague
May 2013
#131
Boomer privilege means that you get to listen to musicians who wrote songs like...
JVS
May 2013
#217
Thinking about this as a 68 yr old person who grew up at a time when there was no TV in the house:
enough
May 2013
#67
my teens do not do facebook and twitter, yea. i was thinking about this just yesterday.
seabeyond
May 2013
#72
Thanks. I've seen it, and unfortunately it has made me distrust people more. Although I see few of
freshwest
May 2013
#231
What is REALLY funny is when these guys act like they WOULD have slept with her,...but not anymore.
Spitfire of ATJ
May 2013
#90
And 30 years ago, the tough guy misogynist twerp didn't have a way to publish his bile so that
Common Sense Party
May 2013
#122
Yeah, the thing is, I see this as connected to the pandemic of male violence against women.
redqueen
May 2013
#173
Thing is, you don't *know* (based on one comment) whether someone's just trying to be "edgy"
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#197
As a more mature woman...aged beyond being sexually exploited in the same manner.....
Sheepshank
May 2013
#156
There's plenty of fucked-up bigotry, posted by both sexes and all ages, all over the net.
Nye Bevan
May 2013
#167
Even when asked, however, the poster refuses to clarify or better articulate.
Common Sense Party
May 2013
#194
Maybe she means "some men are like that, others have the potential to be (or not be)."
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#196
I don't think it dilutes the argument at all. On the contrary, I think an honest
Common Sense Party
May 2013
#203
Who says you have to "ignore it"? The first step to problem solving is to accurately
Common Sense Party
May 2013
#211
"But how do you begin to solve it without first being aware of how widespread it is?"
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#212
HOW did a generation of young women's brains get f-ed up enough to produce this bigotry about Jolie
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
May 2013
#187
I agree. I think the people who are rude and hateful on anonymous sites like Twitter
Common Sense Party
May 2013
#201
Sorry but a lot of creeps have been screwed up for a long time, not just now
still_one
May 2013
#205
You are completely correct...With today's technology they are able to be more visible...
yawnmaster
May 2013
#222
alp227, thank you so much for being what you are, right now, and enlightening us all on the problem.
freshwest
May 2013
#207
I wouldn't call anecdotal information that is meant to represent an entire generation very good...
yawnmaster
May 2013
#221
It is just easier for the assholes to become visible and communicate to a wider audience than...
yawnmaster
May 2013
#243