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calimary

(80,693 posts)
6. Ah, the old false-equivalency thing again. Not relevant here. Not by a long shot.
Tue May 21, 2013, 03:55 AM
May 2013

And btw - it's not the same thing. There was virtually NO effort at serious obstruction from the Democratic side against bush/cheney. NOTHING. NOTHING on the order of what we've seen now. NOBODY, as much as we despised bush and knew he stole the election, NOBODY set about to deliberately and actively, EN MASSE, obstruct. NOBODY on our side gathered in a little hotel conference room on the bush/cheney inauguration night to plot his political demise and how to shut him down. I remember very clearly. The media didn't. The Dems didn't. And those of us who were seriously upset about the hijacking that had just occurred (indeed, it was tantamount to a coup d'etat) had to find refuge in little groups here on the internet, and some grumbling in a few coffee shops here and there - among those of us to whom nobody listened.

There was no big uproar. There was no party-wide collusion to ruin that "presidency" OR a declaration of, okay, war if you will, that Job One for the Democrats was to make sure bush/cheney was a one-term president. NONE. Believe me, I searched! I WANTED to see this very badly because I thought it was just, and well-deserved. And there was NONE.

And we groused for several months until this one day in September 2001, when suddenly EVERYONE fell into line behind bush/cheney, and pretty much stayed that way, silenced, unquestioning, our side's leaders scrambling to find places to stand staunchly behind those two fiends. bush/cheney never EVER faced the kind of organized relentless pile-on opposition that President Obama has had to deal with - EVERY FUCKING MINUTE OF EVERY FUCKING DAMN DAY that he's been in office.

It's not a fair comparison you're making. Sorry.

Damned right it should be circulated. DemocratsForProgress May 2013 #1
I'm just fed up. You bad-guys wanna start insinuating about the "I-word"? calimary May 2013 #4
Congressional Democrats and Democratic strategists should be pushing this truth BlueCaliDem May 2013 #33
Yeah. Summer Hathaway May 2013 #2
Bill Clinton said it best RobertEarl May 2013 #3
It's disturbing how closely your argument mirrors the neo-cons of the previous administration. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #5
Ah, the old false-equivalency thing again. Not relevant here. Not by a long shot. calimary May 2013 #6
Obstructionism is not treason. It just isn't. So by calling them treasonous... Gravitycollapse May 2013 #8
good luck with that... mikeysnot May 2013 #29
It is during wartime. You know, that period where the Constitution really doesn't count by design? nebenaube May 2013 #57
That is exactly what the neo-cons said! Gravitycollapse May 2013 #61
That is my thought. It can be argued that the Republicans are giving aid and comfort to the JDPriestly May 2013 #13
Spot on! MNBrewer May 2013 #25
It's disturbing how you're on a Democratic Party supporting site and appear against the OP's BlueCaliDem May 2013 #34
Treason is defined in law in the Constitution, Article III. longship May 2013 #7
Great post oberliner May 2013 #14
Yes, the extremist 20 have committed treason. Sedition is illegal graham4anything May 2013 #9
as is libel... SQUEE May 2013 #23
Why did you pick me to reply to?Especially as 40 other replies said the same thing. graham4anything May 2013 #26
in the flow of this thread, yours is the first to outright say it, so I replied... SQUEE May 2013 #28
sedition. pansypoo53219 May 2013 #10
Google "alien and sedition act" longship May 2013 #12
Nope dreamnightwind May 2013 #11
Good luck with all that RandiFan1290 May 2013 #15
Your argument is, well, sickening. cali May 2013 #16
Yes, of course we should. graham4anything May 2013 #27
of course we should sit down and shut up for any war time President? SICK cali May 2013 #36
So G4A, we're you a big Nixon supporter? onenote May 2013 #42
Their behavior is definitely anti-American and unpatriotic. I get that people have differing views spicegal May 2013 #17
No, not in a legal sense sakabatou May 2013 #18
I think the obstructing R's in congress and in fact at all levels of government have been geckosfeet May 2013 #19
H.L. Mencken and Eugene V. Debs might want you to rethink your stance.. SQUEE May 2013 #20
Which of our political enemies do you want to see executed first? el_bryanto May 2013 #21
........................ Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #22
1. We don't recognize "High Treason" in the US MNBrewer May 2013 #24
But it was enough to silence the opposition, wasn't it? eom BlueCaliDem May 2013 #35
While I didn't stop my criticism MNBrewer May 2013 #39
"Seems like an idiotic means to an end." BlueCaliDem May 2013 #43
Don't get me wrong MNBrewer May 2013 #47
I think you need to read the Constitution. nt hack89 May 2013 #30
It's what they would be screaming if this were a Republican administration... Pragdem May 2013 #31
It should be punished politically onenote May 2013 #41
Welcome to DU, Pragdem! I'm very appreciative of all the comments, both pro and con. calimary May 2013 #55
This is a bad idea that can't even survive its own standard for a mere 55 posts. Nuclear Unicorn May 2013 #60
Treason has a very specific definition. MineralMan May 2013 #32
I hate it when DUers openly display their ignorance of the Constitution onenote May 2013 #37
In my short time on this forum, I've noticed quite a bit of that. Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #51
To paraphrase William Pitt: Derp Jeff In Milwaukee May 2013 #58
The stragest aspect to me is that people don't understand one of our basic principles of law Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #62
Oooooh. TREASON, probably HIGH TREASON? Nye Bevan May 2013 #38
That was awesome Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #40
If it could be shown that certain GOP officials ucrdem May 2013 #46
+1 MNBrewer May 2013 #48
We're Seeing History Repeat Itself ChoppinBroccoli May 2013 #44
I can't get over how absolutely terrible and idiotic this op is and I can't believe cali May 2013 #45
I thought I was the ony one. Dpm12 May 2013 #49
I think you are close to a tour de force of hyperbole. Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #50
no. fishwax May 2013 #52
You are wrong on this one. This is not Treason. SlimJimmy May 2013 #53
No. The T word is carefully defined in the Constitution nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #54
The Bill of Rights applies all the time. BlueCheese May 2013 #56
None of it is treason treestar May 2013 #59
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