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calimary

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19. The problem with taking the high road is - it too often takes you straight over a cliff.

Tue May 21, 2013, 02:43 PM

May 2013

At least in this political climate. Taking the high road just seems to disarm our side and let the other side run amok and take over the narrative and the noise and all the face-time on TV/cable.

I posted elsewhere another approach, and MAN am I getting lambasted for it. But everything else we've tried - even when giving the john boners of the world 98% of what they wanted - it's STILL not enough. Einstein is quoted as saying the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again, and hoping somehow for a different result.

So what's the solution then?

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There is a moral problem with America when something as devastating as the Oklahoma tornado [View all] mmonk May 2013 OP

Amen! kentuck May 2013 #1

Oh, you know, "let 'em eat cake!" Bake May 2013 #54

These are the signs that show us nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #2

The empire is crumbling fast. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2013 #74

right but late Chaco Dundee May 2013 #90

Or that people would want to condition aid and relief upon a sense of score settling. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #3

There wouldn't be if it wasn't for jessie04 May 2013 #4

Sounds like a 5 year old MuseRider May 2013 #5

It's pretty much the only thing I can do to insult them. jessie04 May 2013 #6

That is about the saddest MuseRider May 2013 #7

...Most pitiful and uncaring? Demoiselle May 2013 #10

Oh so it is OK to act like this because a Repuke has/is? Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #12

"Taking the high road" got us to where we are today in politics... truebrit71 May 2013 #17

So two wrongs make a right now? Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #20

exactly what effect will Demoiselle's comments have in securing or not securing relief funds? frylock May 2013 #25

Nope, but they get you elected... truebrit71 May 2013 #37

How's that working out for peace in the Middle East? nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #21

We won't know until the US stops supporting the bully... truebrit71 May 2013 #38

Well you go ahead then. Stand up to those bullies.... Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #50

WTF are you talking about? truebrit71 May 2013 #58

"[T]he only way to beat a bully is to punch them back HARDER then they punch you" Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #60

The republican bullies... truebrit71 May 2013 #83

No, it's not self-evident. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #84

Yes it is if you read the thread. truebrit71 May 2013 #85

And how exactly are you suggesting we "punch" the Republicans as it relates to Oklahoma? nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #86

You are missing the point...my response actually has bugger all to do with OK... truebrit71 May 2013 #87

Which simply means not playing politics with disaster relief aid. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #88

Right liberalmike27 May 2013 #110

God someone else as pissed as me. busterbrown May 2013 #93

Well, denying storm relief aid would be a pretty shitty way to "fight back" if you ask me. nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #97

And no-one is suggesting that.... truebrit71 May 2013 #109

So what is being suggested? Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #118

Demoiselle wasn't justifying any behavior. They were questioning the ranking of pitiful cui bono May 2013 #23

I think the idea John2 May 2013 #94

Really? MynameisBlarney May 2013 #13

Grow the fuck up. Zoeisright May 2013 #14

How's the view up there on your high horse? Myrina May 2013 #16

The problem with taking the high road is - it too often takes you straight over a cliff. calimary May 2013 #19

You know, fighting back IS taking the high road! cui bono May 2013 #24

Point made. HOWEVER, I'd rather defend a party in which there actually are people who DO see this calimary May 2013 #46

I agree. And I don't think they're the same at all. But unfortunately the Dems are also complicit cui bono May 2013 #63

well aren't you special.. frylock May 2013 #30

Oh stop it! I'm not happy with insults either, but sometimes it does feel really good. mountain grammy May 2013 #33

Yeah. I know what you mean, mountain grammy. calimary May 2013 #47

Yes, like the only way to spell the GOP loser's name is RMoney.. I I feel better. mountain grammy May 2013 #55

My favorite has always been "republi-CONS." calimary May 2013 #56

Yes, and if the shoe fits.. We shouldn't treat them like they're serious, mountain grammy May 2013 #89

Wow, talk about misplaced pity. Arugula Latte May 2013 #52

Doesn't mean he isn't right... Blue_Tires May 2013 #18

I wonder why the word hillbilly is an allowed slur? CBGLuthier May 2013 #28

Have I offended you? Blue_Tires May 2013 #36

No more than most people who use that term CBGLuthier May 2013 #39

Good points... Blue_Tires May 2013 #43

What were you expecting? n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #49

Chimperor, Il Dunce, Cmdr. Bunnypants, Bush the Lesser, Idiot Son, Cokehead McStagger... DRoseDARs May 2013 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest May 2013 #9

Loving your nicknames for these raging hypocritical assholes. They cannot be insulted enough. MotherPetrie May 2013 #108

I think it's a safe bet that our Democratic Senators and Congressmen will vote for aid. Walk away May 2013 #8

I would hope so. mmonk May 2013 #42

And yet your so called CHRISTIANS Iliyah May 2013 #11

This is what the fucking republican party has sunk gopiscrap May 2013 #15

We'll see if the Republicans are willing to play chicken geek tragedy May 2013 #22

Thank you. nt woo me with science May 2013 #26

I'm willing to spend as much ...... oldhippie May 2013 #27

I know you didn't mean to, Brigid May 2013 #111

Really? How so? What is different than .... oldhippie May 2013 #112

Perhaps that the GOP types hate taxes and "big government" . . . Brigid May 2013 #114

But there are many of us here on this thread .... oldhippie May 2013 #116

You know i've seen a lot of people on the news Daniel537 May 2013 #29

The problem isn't just in America. Capitalism, and the inequity it causes, are a global crisis. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #31

+ 1 clarice May 2013 #32

Tell that to Senator Coburn. Zen Democrat May 2013 #34

It seems as though Republicans are trying to rewrite history by rewriting human ethics Jack Rabbit May 2013 #35

Repubs version of 1984! kentuck May 2013 #62

Those dbag senators can go to Ok and hand out boot straps and self-improvement books. kairos12 May 2013 #75

And prayer books Doctor_J May 2013 #106

Thatcher said there was no such thing as society and Paul said that the Galveston Hurricane of 1900 MisterP May 2013 #117

The Greater Moral Problem School Teacher May 2013 #40

Welcome to DU, School Teacher! calimary May 2013 #51

Yes it is treestar May 2013 #66

They definitely did not extend it to us JustAnotherGen May 2013 #77

Really good perspective libdude May 2013 #101

Sorry but I have to disagree. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #41

I agree with you, Ninja. Send the aid, but make sure that it is well-known which rep Nay May 2013 #64

This ^^^^^^^ treestar May 2013 #67

Democrat parallel would be to insist on defunding a % of the military for OK aid. toby jo May 2013 #44

I see no problem with reminding Oklahomans that their Senators and several Congessmen voted against HooptieWagon May 2013 #45

You should remember that Coyote_Bandit May 2013 #70

It isn't proselytizing. NutmegYankee May 2013 #73

So basically your position is quakerboy May 2013 #76

The teabaggers helped get us to this point Blue Owl May 2013 #48

Tell that to the oh-so-principled Senator from Oklahoma who wants corresponding cuts indepat May 2013 #57

Sorry mmonk. MuseRider May 2013 #59

Moral problem? Sounds Pat Robertson-like. Apophis May 2013 #61

There would be a lot more help there too if people in Oklahoma voted more liberally treestar May 2013 #65

The problem with your argument is "them." Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #68

Muslims did not elect Al Qaeda to attack anyone treestar May 2013 #69

I don't think anyone on our side is seriously considering witholding aid. NutmegYankee May 2013 #71

None of our elected officials are. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #72

Fair warning realFedUp May 2013 #78

You know what else a tragedy brings out in people? Almighty righteousness. Earth_First May 2013 #79

Bravo! txwhitedove May 2013 #81

Shana, they bought their tickets. They knew what they were getting into. I say.... Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #82

Obviously America Is Amoral cantbeserious May 2013 #80

Helping in disasters - the core of why we have govt. grahamhgreen May 2013 #91

Well, my mother in law says that God is trying to tell us something ashling May 2013 #92

Bullshit. There is no debate. There are only a few pontificating politicians who make noise. randome May 2013 #95

They want to screw Grandma over in Detroit, not Oklahomans HereSince1628 May 2013 #96

How do we balance consequences of the choices we make duhneece May 2013 #98

money vs. compassion. mgardener May 2013 #99

This moral problem has its roots in the hearts of conservatives. nt Zorra May 2013 #100

The moral problem starts with our unending wars of aggression! peace13 May 2013 #102

We can't just let the hostage game be played out in blue states only. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #103

you're right florida08 May 2013 #104

There is no debate. It will be approved. It will be delivered with no strings Doctor_J May 2013 #105

there never has been until this year. madrchsod May 2013 #107

K and R (nt) bigwillq May 2013 #113

there is a moral problem when people like Inhofe and Coburn are part of the Doctor_J May 2013 #115