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Poll_Blind

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7. I recced because I think it brings up an interesting discussion but I...

Reply to Kelvin Mace (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2013, 11:19 AM

May 2013

...also probably disagree with you on a couple of points- all this is outside the example links you provided and a bit more general.

In Animal Farm, the pig Napoleon takes two litters of puppies away from their mothers and trains them to be enforcers, killers. They leave the story as innocents and return as villains. But how culpable are they for their villainous behavior? I'm not entirely sure the answer is an easy one for me to give.

Others will likely have different answers to such an existential question and while I may disagree with the answer, the question is worth asking.

PB

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The age of consent needs to be set at eleven! [View all] Kelvin Mace May 2013 OP

I was ready to pounce on this OP until I read through it and a couple of the links. SlimJimmy May 2013 #1

And 35 to join the military Kelvin Mace May 2013 #2

Agree (nt) SlimJimmy May 2013 #3

Traditionally 13 is the most common point of transition. Prior to that, parents were held Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #4

I wouldn't say it is an artificial construct Kelvin Mace May 2013 #5

Those changes are the point. They define the difference between a child and an adult and the passage Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #8

So...what? An army of trained psychologists examining every child in the country? randome May 2013 #15

You are missing the point Kelvin Mace May 2013 #19

Totally agree with you about trying children as adults. randome May 2013 #21

No, I can understand the logic Kelvin Mace May 2013 #23

Exactly Shankapotomus May 2013 #6

I recced because I think it brings up an interesting discussion but I... Poll_Blind May 2013 #7

My point is Kelvin Mace May 2013 #10

actually we can't seek either the death penalty nor life in prison without a specific parole date dsc May 2013 #9

Is this a recent ruling? Kelvin Mace May 2013 #11

death penalty was a few years ago dsc May 2013 #14

Thank you for the update Kelvin Mace May 2013 #22

Since the reinstatement of the death penalty in 1976, East Coast Pirate May 2013 #12

You're got it backwards. pnwmom May 2013 #13

Also agree. randome May 2013 #16

No, I am trying to make a point Kelvin Mace May 2013 #17

Cue Max Frost and the Troopers... MindPilot May 2013 #18

Prosecutors have WAY too much leeway laws need to be changed/enacted, xtraxritical May 2013 #20

Absolutely! Kelvin Mace May 2013 #26

What does an angry waffle sound like? Android3.14 May 2013 #24

So, you are okay with bad things happening to kids Kelvin Mace May 2013 #25

You had a point? Android3.14 May 2013 #28

Was the Juvenile system intended for Mass Murderers? One_Life_To_Give May 2013 #27