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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
10. Except that Comey, despite his reservations, ultimately did endorse torture.
Thu May 30, 2013, 09:15 PM
May 2013
Then there's Comey's mixed and quite murky role in authorizing Bush's torture program. Internal DOJ emails released to the New York Times in 2009 show Comey expressing serious reservations, and even objections, to the willingness of Albert Gonzales to legally authorize any interrogation techniques the White House wanted, and he warned those officials that their involvement would be condemned by history. But even as he did so, Comey, as the New York Times explained, eventually, albeit reluctantly, gave his legal approval to those techniques:

"Previously undisclosed Justice Department e-mail messages, interviews and newly declassified documents show that some of the lawyers, including James B. Comey, the deputy attorney general who argued repeatedly that the United States would regret using harsh methods, went along with a 2005 legal opinion asserting that the techniques used by the Central Intelligence Agency were lawful.

"That opinion, giving the green light for the CIA to use all 13 methods in interrogating terrorism suspects, including waterboarding and up to 180 hours of sleep deprivation, 'was ready to go out and I concurred,' Mr. Comey wrote to a colleague in an April 27, 2005, e-mail message obtained by The New York Times."


As I wrote at the time, the NYT article significantly overstated Comey's role in approving these torture programs. But it is true that he ultimately acquiesced to their legalization.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/30/james-comey-fbi-bush-nsa

Thanks, H20 Man. ucrdem May 2013 #1
I just read H2O Man May 2013 #3
I don't think the ACLU memo accurately characterizes Comey's role in the DOJ signoff. ucrdem May 2013 #6
Except that Comey, despite his reservations, ultimately did endorse torture. Luminous Animal May 2013 #10
No, he did not. Read the memos. Here's the full context for that quotation: ucrdem May 2013 #11
That's not how I'm reading it... dreamnightwind May 2013 #24
There were 2 DOJ opinions. The second was the torture green light. ucrdem May 2013 #26
Interesting. H2O Man May 2013 #28
Weird. Yes, that helps dreamnightwind May 2013 #29
It is weird, isn't it? ucrdem May 2013 #32
Greenwald was clear then that Comey signed off on the use of torture and he is clear now: Luminous Animal May 2013 #39
Wrong. Comey signed off on analysis of individual techniques. ucrdem May 2013 #41
Hahahaha!!! Yes. Analysis. Luminous Animal May 2013 #42
Yes indeed. Forget GG, he can't keep his story straight for the length of one column ucrdem May 2013 #47
Comey signed off on the use of all 13 methods of torture when used individually... Luminous Animal May 2013 #37
The memos are classified. Read the emails. nt ucrdem May 2013 #40
Thanks, I have read this (after I made my post) dreamnightwind Jun 2013 #63
I respect your opinion in this. CaliforniaPeggy May 2013 #2
Thanks! H2O Man May 2013 #4
Kick n/t Tx4obama May 2013 #5
Thanks for this Post...You were out there then posting...so you know what went on. KoKo May 2013 #7
Comey did his job when the rubber met the road, is it time for looking back by any shraby May 2013 #8
Mediocre Republicans are the best we can expect Obama to appoint Bluenorthwest May 2013 #9
+1000 forestpath May 2013 #14
k&r... spanone May 2013 #12
Well written informative OP, and a k&R for the term "necroconservatives" Dragonfli May 2013 #13
I believe that H2O Man May 2013 #56
Jaysus, Obama Has Gone And Picked Another Damn Republican Me. May 2013 #15
PS Me. May 2013 #17
"Because of the limited options" I don't buy that. bahrbearian May 2013 #16
For sake of discussion, H2O Man May 2013 #19
I have no way of knowing any short list or of any possible candidates. bahrbearian May 2013 #34
Solid answer. H2O Man May 2013 #35
To cross to the other side you have to swim against the current sometime. Swimming with the current bahrbearian May 2013 #38
The culture of the FBI itself needs also to be taken into account. scarletwoman May 2013 #49
Interesting. H2O Man May 2013 #50
It is in the upper levels of the bureaucracy where the power games are played. scarletwoman May 2013 #51
Exactly right. H2O Man May 2013 #53
very tiny point of order grasswire May 2013 #18
Great OP! What gets me is that this is the freakin' FBI we're talking about. One of the foundational scarletwoman May 2013 #20
Right. It would seem H2O Man May 2013 #21
Arlo Guthrie is a Republican, last time I heard him talk about it Bluenorthwest May 2013 #43
that sounds impossible. any link? nt tomp Jun 2013 #57
PLEASE don't let THAT be true ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #62
Angela Davis! n/t malthaussen May 2013 #46
I only wish H2O Man May 2013 #54
I respect your opinion on this, H2O Man. I am soo sick of the lesser of two evil choices, but Mnemosyne May 2013 #22
Yep, good, bad, and ugly all wrapped up in one neat package rocktivity May 2013 #23
Good post until last paragraphgh dreamnightwind May 2013 #25
Perhaps I am confused, H2O Man May 2013 #27
Not sure about the confusion dreamnightwind May 2013 #31
The problem with that conclusion is that anyone can apply it to any issue and thus Bluenorthwest May 2013 #44
An activist has to H2O Man May 2013 #45
I did not suggest some 100% devotion to anything, I simply noted that the concluding Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #61
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Cool Story, Bro: And One Damned Funny Letter You Wrote There.... The Magistrate Jun 2013 #65
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Of Course It Is, Sir.... The Magistrate Jun 2013 #67
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Evidently, Sir, Your Fantasy World Contains A Great Deal.... The Magistrate Jun 2013 #69
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"But as for the real men, like me, we can't afford that luxury. We can't afford to mock." The Magistrate Jun 2013 #71
Hollingsworth v Perry H2O Man May 2013 #30
Really? But he also donated to Mittens for President, so what sort of 'favoring' is that Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #60
morning kick (nt) scarletwoman May 2013 #33
This is concurrently well-written, informative, and highly depressing. bullwinkle428 May 2013 #36
Thanks. H2O Man May 2013 #55
Once he got paid, Angel Eyes always saw the job through. Octafish May 2013 #48
I'd like to think H2O Man May 2013 #52
I fully support Comey. He PHYSICALLY stood up to the bastards in 2003, which is more than.... PassingFair Jun 2013 #58
A Good Rule of Thumb warrprayer Jun 2013 #59
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