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zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
12. They're wrong
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jun 2013

The real problem with the modern American Conservative movement is that it is flat out wrong. I can't think of a single "conservative" issue on which they can claim any evidence of the strength of their position. They've never balanced a budget using "conservative principals". They've never produced long term economic growth using them. They've never conducted a foreign policy that anyone would want to emulate.

Conservatives would have avoided both WWI and II. They hated Nixon going to China. Then they turned around and wanted a stronger policy in Vietnam. They hated detente.

They oppose abortion, they advocate celibacy, they try to legislate morality all the while complaining about the "nanny state".

They want to cut taxes, increase spending, undermine the middle class, and off shore production. NONE of that has "grown the economy" at all and in fact has been shown to weaken us in both a military as well as economic sense. Even their most recent attempt at an "austerity" movement has been shown to be based upon flawed data and to be exactly the opposite of what they propose.

They can't point to a single long term success of anything they espouse, and that includes their attitudes towards environmental "conservation".

They've failed, repeatedly.

And contrast and compare that with liberals. Liberals can claim huge long term successes, everything from Social Security to the union movement. They were right about civil rights, and continue to be right as we move forward with LGBT rights. They're right about the environment. They've managed to balance budgets, and reduce deficits. They've won wars. And the democrats anyway have always been larger than the republicans, and in fact ran congress for 40 straight years, something the GOP has NEVER done.

I cannot improve on this article.......all I can do is K&R. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2013 #1
recommended libodem Jun 2013 #2
David is so cute. Right wing extremists are now conservative reformers. Tea baggers are not Monk06 Jun 2013 #3
Yep. Dave seems to have forgotten that conservatives needed to lean heavily on... JHB Jun 2013 #7
They're wrong zipplewrath Jun 2013 #12
i have come to the conclusion that conservatives are stupid, cowardly, selfish samsingh Jun 2013 #19
To be generous zipplewrath Jun 2013 #21
K&R nt riderinthestorm Jun 2013 #4
This man is upset at what? Iliyah Jun 2013 #5
this is the monster HE created. pansypoo53219 Jun 2013 #6
Was very anti-Palin in 08 and very anti-teabagger emulatorloo Jun 2013 #13
Sorry... ReRe Jun 2013 #8
Bless his little heart. Demoiselle Jun 2013 #9
I say- ruffburr Jun 2013 #10
With any luck, their period of reflection will last past cut-off for real entry to 2016. nt silvershadow Jun 2013 #11
Dave will have to do a lot more than this navarth Jun 2013 #14
Ok, Dave, I'll bite. What "conservative insights" would address climate change? SunSeeker Jun 2013 #15
Am I the only person who noticed Lordquinton Jun 2013 #16
No matter what you think about Frum it is prudent to read what he has to say. 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #17
frum needs to understand that he must have the integrity to leave today's conservative parties samsingh Jun 2013 #18
the teabaggers in congress warrior1 Jun 2013 #20
Man, they wait till it's gone so far that Alex Jones is being taken as a serious source SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #22
HA HA ! Good luck with THAT ! blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #23
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