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Proud Liberal Dem

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6. Consider the source

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:33 AM

Jun 2013

Wingnuts are just using this as another fraudulent line of attack on ACA. The rule in question has been around for awhile and a GWB appointed Judge and the right wing are trying to carve out an exemption for this young girl for seemingly political reasons (ie attacking Obama, Sebelius, and, of course, their favourite whipping post, Obamacare)

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Question about girl denied lung transplant. Does the deniel have anything to do with Obama [View all] patricia92243 Jun 2013 OP

If I am not mistaken it has to do with her age. The girl is 10 yrs old and I think she has to be southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #1

I know it is her age. My question is is it a long standing policy (before Obama) or is it something patricia92243 Jun 2013 #7

If it wasn't a government policy could HHS even have a say in the matter? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #17

I am not sure but I think it has been that way before the President. People give the office southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #27

The right wing (and even some progressives) Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #9

True southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #26

She isn't being denied lapfog_1 Jun 2013 #2

Do you know WHEN the committee of surgeons made this rule - before Obama Care or after it? That and patricia92243 Jun 2013 #11

It doesn't matter. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #14

I don't see how that makes it worth defending. Quite the opposite, really. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #18

Seriously? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #21

Are you saying medical policy should be set by political hacks? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #25

I'm saying organ donations need to be regulated, strictly regulated. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #31

And you're arguing to have the next Pat Robertson demand his preferred HHS Sec'y. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #33

so you think there should be no rules? Seriously? bowens43 Jun 2013 #22

If someone can obtain competent treatment by their own means Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #23

you are still dancing around the topic. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #32

I'm not dancing. I'm saying unequivocally Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #35

no you continue to dance Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #38

From donors, obviously. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #40

Could the doctors pay donors and charge recipients market rates? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #45

If paying donations increased the supply would you oppose an increased supply? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #49

Then every wealthy alcoholic who needed a new liver would be able to buy their way to the top auburngrad82 Jun 2013 #34

Health care decisions are between patient and doctor. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #39

Not always auburngrad82 Jun 2013 #42

That's not an endorsement of political hacks, incompetent bureaucrats and crony appointees. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #43

In my case thank God for the government rule doing away with lifetime maximums auburngrad82 Jun 2013 #44

I'm delighted you got treatment. I lost my MIL not long ago to a cancer that overtook her too fast. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #47

There is a shortage of parts and a waiting list for those parts. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #46

Congrtulations. You won. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #48

Another victory for you. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #55

How is the government not going to be involved in organ transplants? yellowcanine Jun 2013 #52

If resource scarcity is a rationale -- Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #53

I don't follow your logic. Scarcity demands that decisions have to be made. yellowcanine Jun 2013 #56

. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #58

"another family could be incentivized to provide the transplant organs" The donor has to be dead yellowcanine Jun 2013 #59

kill junior for his kidneys and collect 1,000,000 from some billionaire in renal failure. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #61

I read the rules have been in place since 2005. RudynJack Jun 2013 #24

the United Network for Organ Sharing seltzerwater Jun 2013 #57

I do think there is room to make adjustments on this... cynatnite Jun 2013 #13

I agree that there is always room to review older rules and see if they are still appropriate Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #16

I don't blame the parents for seeking an exemption... cynatnite Jun 2013 #19

I don't blame them for wanting an exemption. Who wouldn't? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #28

No atreides1 Jun 2013 #3

I tried that but could never get a date on any of it - I find this stuff very tedious to read and patricia92243 Jun 2013 #12

rightwingers on facebook have been saying our government is too busy promoting same sex boilerbabe Jun 2013 #4

Of course not leftynyc Jun 2013 #5

Consider the source Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #6

If anyone complains about this gollygee Jun 2013 #8

Its a rule from UNOS which was a pet project of Al Gore when he... GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #10

No, it doesn't. It has to do with her age. REP Jun 2013 #15

If this is the same little girl, she has been moved to the adult list. The rule bike man Jun 2013 #20

If you read a lot of comment boards (i.e. Politico) Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #29

Yes both Obama and the IRS ... obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2013 #30

Don't forget Benghazi! Zoeisright Jun 2013 #37

That's because she was denied because of her age. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #36

No, it's Obamacare. That's one piece of $%# legislation we will own forever. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #54

About 19,700,000 results (0.16 seconds) when searching 'Obamacare'. nt bike man Jun 2013 #60

No. Transplant rules are made by groups of surgeons magical thyme Jun 2013 #41

No I am a transplant nurse ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #50

actually, the reverse is now true-the repubs forced someone else to probably die to move her ahead. graham4anything Jun 2013 #51