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In reply to the discussion: Pfc Bradley Manning Must Be Pilloried to Maintain the USofA’s Authoritarian Rule [View all]usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)11. How would you know? Did you know him before he was put in solitary?
The honest answer is that you don't know him or his motivations, and are just spouting talking points (per usual) but I will take him at his word...
I believe that if the general public, especially the American public, had access to the information contained within [some of the documents], this could spark a domestic debate on the role of the military and our foreign policy in general as it related to Iraq and Afghanistan, he said, according to a transcript of his testimony earlier this year.
I also believed the detailed analysis of the data over a long period of time by different sectors of society might cause society to reevaluate the need or even the desire to engage in counter-terrorism and counterinsurgency operations that ignore the complex dynamics of the people living in the affected environment everyday, he said.
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I hoped that the public would be as alarmed as me about the conduct of the aerial weapons team crew members, he said.
I wanted the American public to know that not everyone in Iraq and Afghanistan was a target that needed to be engaged and neutralized, but rather people who were struggling to live in the pressure cooker environment of what we call asymmetric warfare. After the release I was encouraged by the response in the media and general public, who observed the aerial weapons team video. As I hoped, others were just as troubled if not more troubled that me by what they saw.
As for the diplomatic cables, Manning said that the more he read them, the more he came to the conclusion that the cables should be made public. He said he didnt believe that it would damage the United States, but that it might be embarrassing, since they represented very honest opinions and statements behind the backs of other nations and organizations.
more...
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/88402-why-bradley-manning-leaked-classified-documents-to-wikileaks/
also...
He said the incident that had affected him the most was when 15 detainees had been arrested by the Iraqi Federal Police for printing anti-Iraqi literature. He was asked by the army to find out who the "bad guys" were, and discovered that the detainees had followed what Manning said was a corruption trail within the Iraqi cabinet. He reported this to his commanding officer, but said "he didn't want to hear any of it"; he said the officer told him to help the Iraqi police find more detainees. Manning said it made him realize, "i was actively involved in something that i was completely against ..." He explained that "i cant separate myself from others ... i feel connected to everybody ... like they were distant family," and cited Carl Sagan, Richard Feynman, and Elie Wiesel. He said he hoped the material would lead to "hopefully worldwide discussion, debates, and reforms. if not ... than [sic] we're doomed as a species." He said he had downloaded the material onto music CD-RWs, erased the music and replaced it with a compressed split file. Part of the reason no one noticed, he said, was that staff were working 14 hours a day, seven days a week, and "people stopped caring after 3 weeks." 48)
more...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning
sounds like his motivations were that of a traditional whistle-blower, and an American patriot who believed that the public deserved to know the truth about what was really going on with our foreign policy, that is, IF they were more informed, they would not support these crimes, and demand a change in course.
He sounds like a stand up guy to me, as someone who was only looking at this from the outside, came to the very same conclusions as he did.
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rhett o rick
Jun 2013
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Whistle-blowers are the enemy of the Ruling Elite Class and their conservative enablers. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#2
God forbid that a "mere employee" should have the gall to call a corporation or gov't agency
byeya
Jun 2013
#3
Some here side with the right-wing and want manning given the harshest sentence.
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#4
In a true democracy we would value transparency and prosecute those that tried to deny it. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#23
That would take an educated populace that those who control the political economy want to keep
byeya
Jun 2013
#30
Of course it is and that's why Churchill and Truman followed Harriman's advice to keep
byeya
Jun 2013
#33
Manning seems to be a bright but confused young person, and his motives really aren't clear
struggle4progress
Jun 2013
#8
Do you feel better with that rationalization? Does that justify him spending the rest of his
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#10
You're entitled to your opinions, whatever they are, but we should be able to agree on the facts
struggle4progress
Jun 2013
#13
When our government is using laws to hide their crimes, then those doing the hiding
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#26
We can be reasonably sure that his defense will make every possible effort
struggle4progress
Jun 2013
#29
Manning doesnt stand a chance fighting the government. He must be made a scapegoat
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#32
Ok I am willing to make you a deal. Pfc Bradley Manning should be sentenced 1/1000th of whatever
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#37
Those that use the classification system to hide crimes are more guilty than Manning. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#41
How would you know? Did you know him before he was put in solitary?
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#11
Get out your calculator and your 2009 and 2010 calendars. Count the weeks Manning was in Iraq
struggle4progress
Jun 2013
#12
And factor this into your equation, you do not need to read the entire document to get the gist
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#14
Ask yourself how long it would take you to "get the gist" of every page in a thousand 750 page books
struggle4progress
Jun 2013
#19
And there's the main reason for this, another being that this is a perfect distraction to bring
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2013
#15
Harm to the USA that cannot be repaired? That's the joke of the day. Most of these
byeya
Jun 2013
#21
When laws are made or used to hide crimes or breaches of trust, then it may be necessary to break
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#24
Gee, if a PFC can cause such harm violating his oath imagine if an official with real
GoneFishin
Jun 2013
#27
I totally agree there should be some information that should be considered "classified".
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#40