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Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
19. I'll put you down for "No", then..lol
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jun 2013

You could be right. I could be missing something. I'm not sure the imposters dominate but we shouldn't let our disagreement irrevocably disrupt our unity as Democrats which is my whole point.

I'm perfectly comfortable giving your strategy as chance. We shouldn't let differences in opinion on strategy, dissolve our coalition. Yes, these are big choices with big long term effects. But if one idea doesn't work, you pick yourself up, dust yourself off and try the other guy's idea. Do you think and endless cycle of granting support and withdrawing it is working? Maybe it is. I don't know. Is the party moving forward or do you think it should be abandoned?

My thoughts are you don't want to let it break the coalition without an existing replacement because then you're even further back than square one. Not trying to etch this all in stone. Just suggesting things.. You may have already seen this tried and gone beyond this. And that's fine too. I'm not going to abandon the party because I think a fellow member made or is making a wrong move. Nor am I going to break ranks because one of our weak members lead the wolf pack to the herd. I see too much of that and I'm not sure it works as effectively as sticking together.

Look at religion. Not very rational but, as evolutionists will tell you, it's function is not rationality. It's unity. I'm not saying we shouldn't adhere to rationality. To a great extent our party already does to a much greater degree than most other groups, which is probably why you and I are attracted to its ideas and policies.

But like a religion and like a civilization, if you abandon a mass political philosophy without an existing alternative of comparable influence and power, you're going to effectively be starting from scratch. Sort of like when the Mayans abandoned their cities. If you think Democrats are managing their political philosophy that badly, by all means, run for the hills.

But do you really think the setbacks we are seeing are unmanageable and worthy of abandoning ship?

Great examples, but Democrats are famous for shooting themselves in the foot. It is the Repubs that Pisces Jun 2013 #1
Yes but Republicans stand together Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #2
The challange will be to stand togther without sinking to the Tepublicans level. wandy Jun 2013 #6
for myself, I'm part of a society, not a herd. KG Jun 2013 #3
Yes but some societies Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #5
I would be hard put to defend Democrats under any and all conditions. BUT............. wandy Jun 2013 #4
A bison shows exactly what NOT to do muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #7
Wish I could rec this Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #8
So you want Democrats to be mindless lemmings? burnodo Jun 2013 #9
Not asking them to be mindless lemmings Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #12
Doesn't really make sense burnodo Jun 2013 #15
Republicans don't offer a viable option RainDog Jun 2013 #10
Keep doing what you're doing Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #14
Yes, it's called a herd mentality. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #11
You are not standing against Republicanism and Corporatism by assimilating and executing the same. TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #13
I'll put you down for "No", then..lol Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #19
Some people define "we" as something more relevant than simple party affiliation. Marr Jun 2013 #16
I'm not talking about simple Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #20
That would be fine if there weren't so many Democrats who were wolves themselves. forestpath Jun 2013 #17
That bottom picture looks photo-shopped. egduj Jun 2013 #18
It's a museum exhibit, I think. Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #21
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