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HiPointDem

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6. or wapo got pressure to back down. who knows? it wouldn't be the first time, e.g. sf mercury &
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:19 PM
Jun 2013

gary webb. though his reporting was pretty unimpeachable.

I could be wrong, but I bet this thread turns into crickets.... phleshdef Jun 2013 #1
Crickets? FarCenter Jun 2013 #3
Well, foot stomping and pout-ragin' is so much more fun, doncha know! MADem Jun 2013 #88
Ah, but Greenwald got his facts right. caseymoz Jun 2013 #95
No he did not get his facts right--he got most of them horribly WRONG. He created a kerfluffle MADem Jun 2013 #97
That was one hell of a read Number23 Jun 2013 #100
Then get a load of Maureen "Do you think I'm sexy" Dowd calling POTUS "Barry" in the NYT. MADem Jun 2013 #117
That article is full of doublespeak. caseymoz Jun 2013 #105
Thank you for putting in the time and effort to make such a salient rebuttal (nt) Babel_17 Jun 2013 #109
Sorry. Greenwald isn't just a putzy blogger, he is a lawyer. MADem Jun 2013 #116
He may be a lawyer, but that doesn't mean he isn't a putzy blogger n/t sweetloukillbot Jun 2013 #122
Oh, is that where you're sticking? caseymoz Jun 2013 #139
Greenwald is a lawyer, and, FYI, I posted the link to the Guardian article on the source of his MADem Jun 2013 #140
I give up. caseymoz Jun 2013 #150
If you go, victory will be declared. zeemike Jun 2013 #125
Scream at Greenwald while the cockroaches scurry to hide their actions Generic Other Jun 2013 #134
What a rebuttal. Please consider posting this as a separate thread. snagglepuss Jun 2013 #147
looks like you are definitely wrong Skittles Jun 2013 #137
Mark Twain said it best: Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #2
The co-author of the WaPo story was Laura Poitras. She is getting ready to release the final install okaawhatever Jun 2013 #16
Precisely, There Was No Fall-Out For Jonathan Karl DallasNE Jun 2013 #47
So did the New York Times Iliyah Jun 2013 #40
Judith Miller published, in the NYT, whatever the Bush WH gave her to publish. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #83
Yup... Same technique as Nixon's ratfucking crew used. They've never stopped using it, either. freshwest Jun 2013 #59
Read this court order and then make excuses for Obama. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #69
This court order is for the phone records Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #142
I take it you have changed your opinion since the whistleblower JDPriestly Jun 2013 #144
Here is the court order. Read it for yourself if you think the JDPriestly Jun 2013 #70
I just now took your suggestion thucythucy Jun 2013 #148
This story is does not make Democrats look any worse thatn JDPriestly Jun 2013 #149
"If you really are a suspect thucythucy Jun 2013 #151
Kick n Rec! jazzimov Jun 2013 #4
DU rec... SidDithers Jun 2013 #5
or wapo got pressure to back down. who knows? it wouldn't be the first time, e.g. sf mercury & HiPointDem Jun 2013 #6
Where's your proof they were pressured to back down? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #7
as i didn't make any claim to be offering anything but speculation ("who knows?"), i don't need to HiPointDem Jun 2013 #12
So you're just engaging in wild speculation with no evidence to back up your claim. Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #13
no more than the person who wrote the OP. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #14
isnt that what the entire OP is? sigmasix Jun 2013 #32
Read the documents that Greenwald attached to his JDPriestly Jun 2013 #67
Thank you. caseymoz Jun 2013 #90
I think Greenwald met Jane Hamsher one time. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #124
Thank You. Cheviteau Jun 2013 #146
I'll admit to speculating based on the fact that the companies were all getting heat GoneFishin Jun 2013 #50
If you have any doubt, here is the text of the court order. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #73
You know, that contradicts the OP's source. caseymoz Jun 2013 #98
Have you read the court papers that Greenwald published? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #66
Why on earth ProSense Jun 2013 #18
"Did the NYT back down when it exposed Bush's illegal wiretapping?" OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #31
What silliness. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #35
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #46
No, ProSense Jun 2013 #48
That poster should be shown the door for that post. That two jurors excused that is unreal Number23 Jun 2013 #102
Here is the court order in question: JDPriestly Jun 2013 #78
Read the court order. This isn't about a "story." Here are JDPriestly Jun 2013 #76
I don't know. Why are companies going after Julian Assange? caseymoz Jun 2013 #91
That was my first thought also. More will come out and we hopefully will see what is what. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #26
+1000000 a2liberal Jun 2013 #34
There doesn't seem to be a compelling need cheapdate Jun 2013 #51
The original reporting was way too sensational to be believable. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #8
Beyond sad. madamesilverspurs Jun 2013 #9
One of the WaPo "reporters" is actually a film producer -- doesn't even work for the Washington Post FarCenter Jun 2013 #11
What does this have to do with Glen Greenwald? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #28
Major misdirection here. Marr Jun 2013 #75
^^This +1,000^^ caseymoz Jun 2013 #92
Amen....+1 n/t jaysunb Jun 2013 #52
If Glenn Greenwald mimi85 Jun 2013 #62
Oh? Which fact of his is bullshit? caseymoz Jun 2013 #93
Would you like to read the original court order? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #81
Apparently, nobody does! Mere facts. nt caseymoz Jun 2013 #96
For my part, I'm not denying Greenwald's story brett_jv Jun 2013 #129
+1000. I only wish DU gave us the ability to block certain names. GG would be my first. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #85
Here you go GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #108
No he's not. caseymoz Jun 2013 #94
Our M$M is never ever sloppy, half assed, rushed or lead by bright and shinning things so this uponit7771 Jun 2013 #10
And our government never lies, ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #54
You have a good point, with both of them being off or imcompetent I'd rather vote for a good congres uponit7771 Jun 2013 #65
That would be nice... ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #72
we could uponit7771 Jun 2013 #74
I admire your enthusiasm and ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #80
"Directly" is the weasel word here. woo me with science Jun 2013 #15
Maybe everyone should run with the bullshit story, right? ProSense Jun 2013 #19
Prosense: "There is...no spying program"! woo me with science Jun 2013 #24
You forgot ProSense Jun 2013 #25
No, no. I told you you need the picture woo me with science Jun 2013 #30
You ProSense Jun 2013 #37
Sweetie they are already doing it Iliyah Jun 2013 #44
"Weasel word" is itself "weasel words". phleshdef Jun 2013 #143
Our media is a joke. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #17
If you can't trust the WaPo who can you trust?! Cha Jun 2013 #20
Greenwald's recycled stories from 2006 Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #23
You don't think they're in financial distress, do you? freshwest Jun 2013 #58
Arianna and Andrew, sitting in a tree, k.i.s.s.i.n.g. freshwest Jun 2013 #33
It's all for Profit.. they couldn't care less if they have any facts. Cha Jun 2013 #39
Just found these.. Yes, all about the money... freshwest Jun 2013 #53
Exactly, fresh! "Risk Free Ratfucking"! 'Cause Cha Jun 2013 #55
U.S., company officials: Internet surveillance does not indiscriminately mine data FarCenter Jun 2013 #21
My understanding is that the government has access to our data stored with these companies, limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #22
Here we go again. Somebody stirs up the crock and when it starts smelling... wandy Jun 2013 #27
Acquiring 97 billion pieces of info in one month doesn't seem like a limited and targeted program. dkf Jun 2013 #29
Of which 54 billion came from these 5 countries FarCenter Jun 2013 #36
Still that seems like its sucking in something. dkf Jun 2013 #38
It is reporting that foreign intelligence is being collected FarCenter Jun 2013 #41
Yes...probably the entire pool of data is larger. This is what is being culled? dkf Jun 2013 #43
Boundless Informant is a management reporting tool FarCenter Jun 2013 #45
Seems to be a pattern going on Andy823 Jun 2013 #42
Good post. n/t jaysunb Jun 2013 #56
They're always laying in Cha Jun 2013 #57
Media is in such a hurry to get the scoop first that they're willing to sacrifice their integrity. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #63
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #68
Uh huh. So the vast, secretive spying on innocent Americans DirkGently Jun 2013 #49
Cnet - the web site that includes spyware in its sofware installer. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #60
Might One Be Interested In Some Land In Florida - Government Agents Guarantee It Is Good cantbeserious Jun 2013 #61
Rachel Maddow was hinting that something was amiss on Friday shireen Jun 2013 #64
Let's link to the original court order. That leaves no doubt JDPriestly Jun 2013 #71
Dude, how many times are you going to post this? brett_jv Jun 2013 #131
I await the day SCVDem Jun 2013 #77
Hey Cheerleaders!! LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #79
The NSA is much more upfront and detailed than Wired: mn9driver Jun 2013 #84
And.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #86
Sounds like just that more spin to me. countmyvote4real Jun 2013 #82
Then why oh why is the Obama administration threatening legal action against the whistle-blower? Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #87
More than threatening... LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #89
Because the 'WaPo story being inaccurate', and 'Prism being Real' are not mutually exclusive. brett_jv Jun 2013 #135
Because leaking those documents is illegal. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #110
Greenwald = Drudge. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #99
kpete, they are not directly on the servers, BUT they have the ability to "TASK" the servers. Th1onein Jun 2013 #101
They are playing word games really. dkf Jun 2013 #103
So, Obama didn't LIE exactly. But he has misled us big time. Th1onein Jun 2013 #104
The prism part is the retrieval side of it which is under court supervision dkf Jun 2013 #106
Thanks - best posting in this thread here /nT temmer Jun 2013 #107
Thanks! So, we're now at the point of this story where selected facts can mask the truth (nt) Babel_17 Jun 2013 #111
They aren't saying the installed equipment are server mirrors! sweetloukillbot Jun 2013 #119
If there is no direct access to the servers how would it know what to add to the drop box? dkf Jun 2013 #120
There could be a series of filters that the query has to go through sweetloukillbot Jun 2013 #121
Programmed by who? The companies? dkf Jun 2013 #123
I'm sure it was all a BIG misunderstanding. ucrdem Jun 2013 #112
There is so much Obama hate here dennis4868 Jun 2013 #113
It's not "hate," it's "constructive criticism" ProSense Jun 2013 #114
Simon’s followup: he says the debate in the comments on his previous post changed his mind on a few kpete Jun 2013 #115
The Washington Post can be just a political tool, inflicting harm on the Obama administration Coyotl Jun 2013 #118
Kick and Rec. Apparently this falsehood is "conventional wisdom" at DU now. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #126
I'm saying: "I told you So" brett_jv Jun 2013 #127
Yes the 4th estate libodem Jun 2013 #128
CNN BREAKING: Leaked memo recounts encounter with 12 foot chicken. Rex Jun 2013 #130
. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #132
So there is no spying, cultivating, harvesting, meta-ing, none? Great! Safetykitten Jun 2013 #133
No, there is ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #136
Hmm ... - Ok, Is That Law Right? cantbeserious Jun 2013 #141
Looks like events have undercut this disinformation. caseymoz Jun 2013 #138
Where is Lou Grant when we need him... WCGreen Jun 2013 #145
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