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RainDog

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5. Republicans are trying to use this as a bullshit attractor

Sun Jun 9, 2013, 06:06 PM

Jun 2013

which George Will demonstrated by lying about who, at the IRS, was responsible for the teabagger interest at the FBI (it turns out 2 REPUBLICANS WERE THE ONES WHO FLAGGED THE TEABAGGERS as "of interest" with their claims to be charitable groups.)

He's trying to pretend that Republicans don't engage in dirty tricks, and have done so for a loooong time.

But the reality is that both sides engage in down and dirty politics, depending on the politician. The Republicans have been caught more often, that's all.

But, yeah, this is an issue that people who fucking care about the rule of law and constitutional protections should and do care about. Whatever side of the aisle they may be on.

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The argument about domestic spying isn't one the other side is having to any extent [View all] Fumesucker Jun 2013 OP

Because liberals are traditionally treated more like Enemies of the State DirkGently Jun 2013 #1

exactly RainDog Jun 2013 #7

Yet every democracy that has been overthrown Warpy Jun 2013 #26

I'm not sure about that. Many of the whistleblowers themselves are libertarians or leveymg Jun 2013 #2

The talking points have not yet been decided upon Fumesucker Jun 2013 #6

There may be a disconnect between the GOP pols and the rank & file within the IC. leveymg Jun 2013 #8

I will take principle over partisanship on this issue any time. DirkGently Jun 2013 #9

I know it's a hackneyed phrase, but some of my best friends and people I trust leveymg Jun 2013 #12

If we don't recognize when someone else gets it right DirkGently Jun 2013 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jun 2013 #3

It's a storm that will blow over and nothing will change Fumesucker Jun 2013 #4

Republicans are trying to use this as a bullshit attractor RainDog Jun 2013 #5

Boot licking goosesteppers RobertEarl Jun 2013 #10

They are playing victim which is step #1 in their process underpants Jun 2013 #11

The irony is that they finally support something Obama is doing. nt freedom fighter jh Jun 2013 #13

That's because they are happily watching maxrandb Jun 2013 #15

They didn't have the argument when their guy was in power either Fumesucker Jun 2013 #17

No, my argument is that maxrandb Jun 2013 #19

It's either give up any privacy to government intrusion or a major city gets vaporized Fumesucker Jun 2013 #20

You're not giving up any privacy maxrandb Jun 2013 #23

When Republicans get back in power these spying programs will be used to get dirt on liberals Fumesucker Jun 2013 #25

To believe that, you'd have to believe maxrandb Jun 2013 #30

The SCOTUS had no problem sidestepping democracy and installing Smirk and Sneer in the White House Fumesucker Jun 2013 #31

this may be an opportunity... nradisic Jun 2013 #16

That's because it won't. DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #18

Actually, they are fine with it as long as it targets Liberals. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #21

I wish I could remember ... david13 Jun 2013 #22

Hell, even some Democrats embrace spying on the people. Obama, Feinstein, et al. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #24

EXACTLY! And they are trying to use this issue jazzimov Jun 2013 #27

Bear in mind that they couldn't use the issue to split us if some were not arguing in favor Fumesucker Jun 2013 #28

How can every terrorist act from Boston to Benghazi be Obama's fault if Obama is overstepping on Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #29