Q. He said he could not separate himself from others?
A. Correct.
Q. He felt connected to everybody?
A. Yes.
Q. Even told you it felt like we were all distant family?
A. Engagement.
Q. And he said he cared?
A. Yes.
Q. He told you that he thought he would keep track -- keep track of people that his job impacted?
A. Correct.
Q. And he wanted to make sure that everybody was okay?
A. Yes.
Q. He told you that the way he separated himself from other analysts was, he cared about people?
A. He said that, yes.
Q. PFC Manning told you he followed humanist values?
A. Yes, he did.
Q. He said he had dogs tags saying "humanist" on it?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know what it means to be a humanist?
A. From my understanding the importance of human life and human beings and has a structure of morality.
Q. He told you that he was bothered that nobody seemed to care?
A. Yes, he did.
Q. He said he thought apathy was far worse than active participation?
A. Yes.
Q. He also told you that he was maybe too traumatized to really care about the consequences to him?
A. Yes.
Q. He told you that he wasn't brave. He was weak?
A. Yes.
Q. He said he was not so much scared of getting caught and facing consequences as he was of being misunderstood?
A. Yes.
Q. At one point you asked him what his end game was, correct?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And he told you, hopefully worldwide discussions, debates and reforms?
A. Yes, he did.
Q. And he said he wanted people to see the truth?
A. Correct.
Q. He said without information you can't make informed decision as a whole?
A. Yes, he did.
Q. And he told you to, he was hoping that people would actually change if they saw the information?
A. Correct.
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