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Proud Liberal Dem

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11. Seriously? O.k. I'll play
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:03 PM
Jun 2013

The intel itself wasn't conclusive or, to put it another way, a "slam dunk" like Tenet called it but Bush, Cheney, et. al appear to have cherry-picked only the bits of intel- most of which was raw or uncorroborated or of questionable origin- and used it to make the "threat" from Iraq look much worse than it actually was. To me, it was a bunch of lies of omission at the very least in a zeal to rush the country to war for reasons I'm still not entirely clear on but it's very likely that there was stuff that we were told that were almost certainly lies but we may never be able to fully sort it out. Iraq clearly did NOT have any WMDs that could threaten us in Baghdad let alone Ohio and the UN Weapon Inspectors- before they were unceremoniously booted out of Iraq- told us that they weren't finding anything but Bush/Cheney wanted to invade so badly that they repeatedly ignored evidence that didn't tell them what they seemed to want to hear and went to war against anybody whom had the slightest hesitation about the war and its costs, benefits, etc. We never got a real "debate" about Iraq because the only evidence that we were allowed to hear was that which promoted the invasion and almost nothing that questioned and/or undermine the rationale for it.

I think that it's time to make the following rule: If a country can't fully control it's own airspace and/or territory, it's NOT a threat to the US.

Post removed [View all] Post removed Jun 2013 OP
They made their own "reality". kentuck Jun 2013 #1
Pancakes and Gazelles! Celldweller Jun 2013 #2
"We know where the WMDs are" was a lie, at least Recursion Jun 2013 #3
The intel found that there were no WMDs in Iraq. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #4
Then you remember it wrong. Whisp Jun 2013 #5
what about this Celldweller Jun 2013 #9
bullshit. Whisp Jun 2013 #10
I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this Celldweller Jun 2013 #12
if you think it's all 'bad intel' that led to the war Whisp Jun 2013 #14
You sound like a fan of theirs. sibelian Jun 2013 #6
lol NO Celldweller Jun 2013 #8
no it wasn't. Whisp Jun 2013 #13
Seriously? SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #7
Seriously? O.k. I'll play Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #11
I'm sure the OP was "sincere" in his assertion! rdharma Jun 2013 #15
Well, Bush certainly had "bad intelligence"..... Wounded Bear Jun 2013 #16
That is not a serious question. The bushies created the bad intel inetnionally morningfog Jun 2013 #17
They were "fixing the intelligence around the policy" Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #18
if that were true... Celldweller Jun 2013 #21
Ever hear of Office of Special Plans (OSP) and stovepiping Brother Buzz Jun 2013 #19
thanks for the good leads Celldweller Jun 2013 #20
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