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In reply to the discussion: The Rude Pundit: Liberal NSA Apologists Can Take It All, Want More [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)60. Apparently the Guardian doesn't have anyone on staff with an iota of IT experience!
And Greenwald is still lying--the Guardian has "revised"--they haven't rewritten GG's shit but they most certainly have issued clarifications and updates, so he's bullshitting, still. It's like he can't help himself.
While the rest of the world plays Where In The World Is Edward Snowdiego?, The Guardian has quietly clarified a key piece of Glenn Greenwalds reporting, in comically aggressive/aggressive fashion. When news of the NSAs Prism data collection program was first broken by Greenwald and The Washington Posts Laura Poitros, the grabber was that the spy agency had direct access to the servers of large internet providers. WaPo, however, backed off of this claim almost immediately, while The Guardian let it stand until today, when it left-cheek-sneaked out a clarification by other reporters.
Calling this a clarification is actually very generous, since Greenwalds initial reporting on Prism gave the unmistakable impression that the NSA was jacking directly into the servers of companies like Google and Facebook, and that it collected information without authorization....
http://www.mediaite.com/online/fulsome-prism-blues-the-guardian-offers-2nd-worst-clarification-ever-on-nsa-story/
And doesn''t Kirsten Powers have an interesting background--a Democrat who has done a lot of work for Rupert Murdoch--he's the guy who owns a minority share in the Hong Kong paper where "Ed" gave his second interview. Strange bedfellows...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/contributors/kirsten-powers.html
Kirsten Powers is a columnist for The Daily Beast. She is also a contributor to USA Today and a Fox News political analyst. She served in the Clinton administration from 1993 to 1998 and has worked in New York state and city politics. Her writing has been published in The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, New York Post, The New York Observer, Salon.com, Elle magazine, and American Prospect online.
There's a lot going on here, and anyone who is trying to make this a party line issue has their head wedged quite firmly up their ass. This is not about "Obama supporters" vs. "everyone else." That's too easy.
This thing is a centipede, and there are 99 shoes left to drop. I would not be surprised if some of that footwear was made in China.
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Seeing national security discussions as entertainment with popcorn emoticons
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#3
When Limbaugh goes off on one of his sexists rants, they should have no reason to be outraged.
Ikonoklast
Jun 2013
#115
It's actually already been written in 2007 by Joe Conason, "It Can Happen Here".
canoeist52
Jun 2013
#38
The defining moment for me was this interview with Duane Clarridge on "national security interests"
Agony
Jun 2013
#74
Then you won't need "their" votes whenever your candidate comes up for election, correct?
CakeGrrl
Jun 2013
#21
"Alienation and condescension aren't a great strategy" especially when you represent a teeny
Number23
Jun 2013
#84
Oh, you don't want to go there. Moderate democrats dump all over liberals all the time and
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#31
doesn't work for me. I'm more of a socialist, so to me the current democratic policies are just
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#57
How does your voting straight D ticket in your precinct keep Cantor, Gohmert & Rubio
Demit
Jun 2013
#59
As opposed to being hooked on the "Ed" and "Glenn" stuff--even when it comes out that
MADem
Jun 2013
#27
Apparently the Guardian doesn't have anyone on staff with an iota of IT experience!
MADem
Jun 2013
#60
They're authoritarians, yep. "Liberal" is just a sports team for them-- and that's
Marr
Jun 2013
#19
on the simplest psychological level, it's just that they made a choice and can't unmake it, no matte
MisterP
Jun 2013
#43
Independents have more logical consistency/ethical integrity than Democrats
carolinayellowdog
Jun 2013
#71
Thing about Mssrs. Jokeline & Tube-in is: they ain't seen the HALF of it yet.
kenny blankenship
Jun 2013
#26
After this week I have no doubt the president could do whatever the fuck he wants
whatchamacallit
Jun 2013
#32
"And if we do not do surveillance and, like my examples I have given before,
Romulus Quirinus
Jun 2013
#50