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Phillip McCleod

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17. that's it exactly.. when we send messages electronically..
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 10:37 AM
Jun 2013

..we leave a trail every single time, unless one learns how to cover one's tracks. it's not an easy trail to find, and takes privileged access to the inner workings of some node in the communications infrastructure, but it's there and it's always been there since the early days of email. since the BBS days for that matter: unscrupulous sysadmins have always been in a position to abuse their power.

anonymous et al has demonstrated that it's possible to gain that kind of access without being granted the authority to do so.. that it's possible to simply *take* that authority, if one can find a way. it might not be super-easy, but there are ways to the savvy and determined. that is one sort of worrisome.

another kind of worrisome.. Verizon et al are being required by law to make it super-easy for the Spies to do so.. and i think that's what makes gov't snooping more worrisome.. we opted into being tracked by Google, Facebook, etc. when we agree to the TOS. i don't remember opting into the NSA.

but both kinds of worrisome accessiblity to our data are side-effects of the basic infrastructure of electronic communications. we're generating more and bigger data, and corporations and the Spies are both finding ways to mine that resource to profile us.. either for targeted ads, or targeted drone strikes.

point is.. if one wants to whisper in this environment, one must go out of one's way to do so. it is foolhardy to assume that insecure lines of communication are secure.

Exactly, and people are now flocking to programs like Warpy Jun 2013 #1
nailed it imo. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #5
No It Isn't ... ThePhilosopher04 Jun 2013 #2
ok maybe it's like sending a message by dogwhistle across a room crowded.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #3
A dangerous assumption... ElboRuum Jun 2013 #6
exactly. that 'someone' was Manning and now Snowden. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #14
Uncle Sam is the least of my concerns in this new era. ElboRuum Jun 2013 #15
that's it exactly.. when we send messages electronically.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #17
We've been told for years. silverweb Jun 2013 #4
thank you, yes. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #8
That turned out well! silverweb Jun 2013 #10
me too! Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #18
Precisely. ElboRuum Jun 2013 #9
Open society? silverweb Jun 2013 #12
Narcissism... ElboRuum Jun 2013 #16
yep. exactly why i used the analogy of yelling across a crowed bar. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #20
Whispering is hardly a remedy for what appears to await us Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #7
ah, but all is not lost.. consider.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #11
Your wisdom is but pearls before swine in my case Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #13
Well in fact no one is even listening unless they have just cause. DCBob Jun 2013 #19
not true at all. not even slightly or sort of true. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #21
"listening" as in recording conversations/chats/emails, etc. DCBob Jun 2013 #22
wrong again. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #23
you fail to understand the issue.. DCBob Jun 2013 #24
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